Editing Catherine OLD (section)

=mITX, mATX=

* Could use server mobo/cpu. But then no update for parents.
* MiniITX only has the one video card slot.
* [http://cplonline.com.au/motherboard.html?dir=asc&mb_form=607&order=price cplonline MiniITX mobos] - About $159-$210

* $175 case, $170 mobo, $100? PSU, $100 RAM, $100 cooler. $200 M.2 SSD. Something like $900 + CPU

==Final Checks==
* Need a 2.5" Disk? Probably not, just jam the 3.5" into the video card slot.
* Need a fan in the node 202?

==CPU Cooler==
* Cryorig C1
* Cryorig C7 - "The C1 is more slim but you will get more performance out of the C7"
* Noctua NH-C14S
* Noctua NH-L9i - Is much quieter than the C7...
* Noctua NH-L12 - Probably too tall...
* Phanteks PH-TC12LS - Apparently 120mm fan...
* Silverstone AR05
* Shadow Rock LP
* Scythe Big Shuriken 2 - 120mm fan. This is a 58mm cooler, the Node 202 is only listed as 56mm but apparently it can fit?

==Parts==
{| class="wikitable sortable"
! Component || Parts || Price || Note
|-
| Case || Fractal Design Node 202 || $145 || Double check this, the node 202 is kinda big... Coolermaster SG13 is a box.
|-
| SSD || SAMSUNG 960 EVO || $185.00 ||
|-
| RAM || Corsair 8GB (2 x 4GB) CMK8GX4M2A2400C16R Vengeance LPX DDR4 2400MHz RED || $99.00 ||
|-
| Mobo || Gigabyte GA-B250N-PHOENIX-WIFI Mini ITX Motherboard || $175.00 ||
|-
| CPU || Intel Core i5-7600 || $299.00||
|- 
| Cooler || Noctua NH-L9i || $54 ||
|-
| PSU || Corsair SF600 600W SFX 80 Plus Gold Power Supply || $169 ||
|-
| Extra Fans || ❔ || ❔ ||
|-
|}

==CPU==
* Skylake/KabyLake intel 6th/7th gen socket is: LGA 1151
* AMD Ryzen is Socket AM4


* AMD Ryzen CPUs cost $245, $265, $299, $345, $433, $519 (cplonline)
* There are no mITX AM4 mobos on cplonline. Most are 1151 with a few other Intel sockets. There are 4 mATX AM4 mobos from $119 -> $145
* Some of the Ryzen CPU's ship without coolers...

* 630 graphics get 21.6 fps
* Server is a i5-4590S (1150 socket...)

{| class="wikitable sortable"
! Code || ix || model || Socket || Graphics || 💲 || SC pts || QC pts || MC pts || Cores || Threads || 💲SC || 💲QC || 💲MC || Notes
|-
| Intel || Celeron || G3900 || 1151 || HD Graphics 510 || $58.00 || 83.2 Pts || 163 Pts || 0166 Pts || 2 || 2 || 1.43 || 2.81 || 2.86 || Cheapest but not best value for money.
|-
| Intel || Pentium || G4560 || 1151 || HD Graphics 630 || $73.00 || 103 Pts || 274 Pts || 0281 Pts || 2 || 4 || 1.41 || 3.75 || 3.85 || 💰💩 Best value for money but also kind of crap. Budget choice. 
|-
| <strike>Intel</strike> ❌ || Pentium || G3258 || 1150⚠️ || HD Graphics || $94.00 || 102 Pts || 198 Pts || 0202 Pts || 2 || 2 || 1.09 || 2.11 || 2.15 || ❌ old. More expensive and worse performance than the newer G4560. Silly 2011-3 socket.
|-
| Intel || Pentium || G4620 || 1151|| HD Graphics 630 || $129.00 || 110 Pts || 295 Pts || 0300 Pts || 2 || 4 || 0.85 || 2.29 || 2.33 || Little under twice price of G4560 for a %33 increase in speed. Probably best to go to the 7100 although that is worse value for money.
|-
| <strike>Intel Core</strike> ❌ || i7 || 920 || 1366⚠️ || ❌ || $46 || 70.3 Pts || 242 Pts || 346 Pts || 4 || 8 || ❔ || ❔ || ❔ || ❌ ⬅️ Parents setup for comparison.
|-
| Intel Core ⭐ || i3⬅️ || 7100 || 1151 || HD Graphics 630 || $155.00 || 115 Pts || 305 Pts || 0313 Pts || 2 || 4 || 0.74 || 1.97⭐ || 2.02 || 🆗1️⃣💰 This is the best 7th gen value for money. Should be ok for gaming.
|-
| Intel Core ⭐ || i5⬅️ || 7400 || 1151 || HD Graphics 630 || $255.00 || 102 Pts || 382 Pts || 0392 Pts || 4 || 4 ||0.40 || 1.50 || 1.54 || 🆗2️⃣
|-
| Intel Core || i5 || 7500 || 1151 || HD Graphics 630 || $269.00 || 111 Pts || 418 Pts || 0430 Pts || 4 || 4 || 0.41 || 1.55 || 1.60 || 🆗2️⃣
|-
| <strike>Intel Core</strike> ❌ || i5 || [https://ark.intel.com/products/80816/Intel-Core-i5-4590S-Processor-6M-Cache-up-to-3_70-GHz 4590S] || 1150⚠️ || HD Graphics 4600 || $299.00 || 99.9 Pts || 363 Pts || 0374 Pts || 4 || 4 || 0.33 || 1.21 || 1.25 || ❌ ⬅️ My server
|-
| Intel Core ⭐ || i5 || 7600 || 1151 || HD Graphics 630 || $299.00 || 121 Pts || 457 Pts || 0467 Pts || 4 || 4 || 0.40 || 1.53 || 1.56 || 🆗2️⃣
|-
| Intel Core || i5 || 7600K || 1151 || HD Graphics 630 || $335.00 || 131 Pts || 499 Pts || 0510 Pts || 4 || 4 || 0.39 || 1.49 || 1.52 || 🆗2️⃣ After this, the $ per perf drops off. +9% effective speed over the 7600 (+20% with OC). Would need to make sure the mobo supports overclocking...1600X
|-
| Intel Core || i7 || 7700 || 1151 || HD Graphics 630 || $422.00 || 121 Pts || 432 Pts || 0648 Pts || 4 || 8 || 0.29 || 1.02 || 1.54 || ⬇️3️⃣ The value per $ for quad core benchmark drops off here... The MC is about the same.

|-
| Intel Core ⭐ || i7 || 7700K || 1151 || HD Graphics 630 || $473.00 || 139 Pts || 490 Pts || 0743 Pts || 4 || 8 || 0.29 || 1.04 || 1.57 || 3️⃣ No real advantage over over 6700K, but its cheaper so yeh...
|-
| <strike>Intel Core</strike> ❌ || i7 || 6700K || 1151 || HD Graphics 530 || $485.00 || 131 Pts || 456 Pts || 0694 Pts || 4 || 8 || 0.27 || 0.94 || 1.43 || ❌ ⬅️ My desktop
|-
| <strike>Intel Core</strike> ❌ || i7 || [https://ark.intel.com/products/94189/Intel-Core-i7-6800K-Processor-15M-Cache-up-to-3_60-GHz 6800K] || 2011-3⚠️ || ❌ || $595.00 || 112 Pts || 443 Pts || 0884 Pts || 6 || 12 || 0.19 || 0.74 || 1.49 || ❌ The QC vs $ drops a bit more here. There is also no VGA forcing a GPU purchase. And the socket type is silly.
|-
| <strike>Intel Core</strike> ❌ || i7 || 6850K || 2011-3⚠️ || ❌ || $869.00🔥 || 119 Pts || 475 Pts || 0949 Pts || 6 || 12 || 0.14 || 0.55 || 1.09 || ❌ 🔻
|-
| <strike>Intel Core</strike> ❌ || i7 || [https://ark.intel.com/products/94196/Intel-Core-i7-6900K-Processor-20M-Cache-up-to-3_70-GHz 6900K] || 2011-3⚠️ || ❌ || $1,469.00🔥 || 117 Pts || 475 Pts || 1238 Pts || 8 || 16 || 0.08 || 0.32 || 0.84 || ❌ 🔻
|-
| <strike>Intel Core</strike> ❌ || i7 || [https://ark.intel.com/products/94456/Intel-Core-i7-6950X-Processor-Extreme-Edition-25M-Cache-up-to-3_50-GHz 6950X] || 2011-3 || ❌ || $2,335.00🔥 || 117 Pts || 473 Pts || 1,526 Pts || 10 || 20 || 0.05 || 0.20 || 0.65 || ❌ 🔻
|-
| AMD YD1400BBAEBOX || Ryzen 5 || 1400 || AM4 || ❌ || $245.00 || 096.2 Pts || 328 Pts || 0535 Pts || 4 || 8 || 0.39 || 1.34 || 2.18 ||
|-
| AMD YD1500BBAEBOX || Ryzen 5 || 1500X || AM4 || ❌ || $265.00 || 106 Pts || 363 Pts || 0591 Pts || 4 || 8 || 0.40 || 1.37 || 2.23 ||
|-
| AMD YD1600BBAEBOX || Ryzen 5 || 1600 || AM4 || ❌ || $299.00 || 105 Pts || 381 Pts || 0872 Pts || 6 || 12 || 0.35 || 1.27 || 2.92 ||
|-
| AMD YD160XBBAEBOX || Ryzen 5 || 1600X || AM4 || ❌ || $345.00 || 111 Pts || 407 Pts || 0919 Pts || 6 || 12 || 0.32 || 1.18 || 2.66 ||
|-
| AMD YD1700BBAEBOX || Ryzen 7 || 1700 || AM4 || ❌ || $433.00 || 103 Pts || 383 Pts || 1137 Pts || 8 || 16 || 0.24 || 0.88 || 2.63 ||
|-
| AMD YD170XBCAEWOF || Ryzen 7 || 1700X || AM4 || ❌ || $519.00 || 108 Pts || 405 Pts || 1204 Pts || 8 || 16 || 0.21 || 0.78 || 2.32 ||
|-
| AMD ? || Ryzen 7 || 1800X || AM4 || ❌ || $679 || 112 Pts || 420 Pts || 1244 Pts || 8 || 16 ||
|}

|-
| Intel Core || i3 || 7100T || 1151 || Intel® HD Graphics 630 || $199.00 || || || 286 Pts || Seems to be a power-saving version?

* <strike>Intel Core i5 6400 - $265</strike>
* <strike>Intel Core i5 6500 - $289</strike>
* <strike>Intel Core i5 6600K - $345</strike>
* <strike>Intel Core i3 7350K - $225</strike>
* <strike>Intel Core i5 7600K - $335</strike>

The 6xxx series more expensive than the 7xxx?

==mITX Case==
<img src="https://i.imgur.com/6z5U0kW.jpg"/>

* [http://cplonline.com.au/computer-cases.html?case_form_factor=53&limit=60 cplonline mITX cases]
* [http://cplonline.com.au/computer-cases.html?case_form_factor=52&limit=60 cplonline mATX cases]

* [https://www.pccasegear.com/category/25_1119/cases/mini-itx-cases pccasegear mITX cases]
* [http://search.pccasegear.com/computer/Micro-Atx pccasegear MicroATX cases]

* PSU HDPlex250 '[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UX81ZBJ6B-k allows up to a 970]'

{| class="wikitable sortable"
! Case
! Price
! Size
! GPU
! PSU
! 3.5"
! USB 3.x
! Notes
|-
| Coolermaster Elite 110 Mini ITX || $49.00 || 2 Shoe Boxes ||  ✔️ (≤210mm), dual slot || ❌ ATX (≤180mm, sticks out the back try at least a 160mm) || ✔️ || ✔️ (3.0) || 
|-
| Cooler Master Elite 130 || $58.00 || Deep? || ✔️ ≤343mm || ❌ ATX || ✔️ || ✔️ (3.0) ||
|-
| Antec ISK110 VESA Mini-ITX Desktop Black Case || $105.00 || Small (VESA Mount) || ❌ || 90W || ❌ || ❌ || Dust trap holes on cover. No 3.5" drive. No USB 3.0. Comes with a small 90W PSU.
|-
| Thermaltake Core V1 mITX || $65 || 2 Shoebox cube || ✔️ full sized dual GPUs || ❌ FULL ATX || ✔️ || Huge 200mm fan
|-
| In Win Chopin Mini-ITX || $115.00 || ❓ || ❓ || 150W inc || ❓ || ❓ || Don't think this has GPU space. PSU not enough for a GPU anyway... Comes in silver.
|-
| In Win 901 Aluminum / Tempered Glass ⭐ || $239.00 || Small Tower || ✔️ (300×120mm dual) || ❌ ATX || ✔️ || ✔️ || 💲💲💲 Expensive, but nice! 
|-
| Cooler Master HAF-915R Stacker || $74.00 || Short but deep and wide. 228×248×578mm || ✔️ (dual) || ❌ ATX || ✔️ || ✔️ (3.0) || Dust trap holes on cover. Could be an idea for splitting the server into 2 systems.
|-
| Fractal Design Node 202 ⭐ || $145 || Nice and thin || ✔️ dual slot (≤310×145×47mm) || ❌ SFX PSUs up to 130mm || ❌ || ❓ || pccasegear, not cpl. Seens nice.  Optional 450W, but I don't think it comes with the pccasegear one (despite the price).
|-
| Fractal Design NODE 304 || $135.00 || 2xShoeboxs❓ || ✔️ (but use a small 140mm psu) || ❌ (ATX) || ✔️ || ✔️ (3.0) || Lots of HDD's. Was considering it for the server.
|-
| Fractal Design Nano S || $119.00 || Small tower || ✔️ ≤313mm, dual slot || ✔️ (ATX, ≤160mm, shorter recommended || ✔️ || ✔️ || CPL
|-
| Silverstone SG13 || $55 || Cube? || ✔️ (≤266mm) || ❓ || ❌ (ATX) || ❓ || pccasegear
|-
| NZXT Manta Mini ITX || $189 || Small tower || 
|-
| SilverStone Raven RVZ02 || $109 PCG / $199 (with window) || Not too big || ✔️ (≤330mm × ≤121.412) || ❌ (SFX/SFX-L) || ✔️ || ✔️ 3.0 || pccasegear. Milo looks nicer.
|-
| SilverStone Milo ML08 || $109 || Not too big || ✔️ ≤330mm || ❌ (SFX/SFX-L) || ✔️ || ❓ || pccasegear
|-
| Aerocool Dead Silence Cube || $129 || mATX size || ❓ || ❓ || ❓ || ❓ || CPL+pccasegear. Lots of nice colour choices, although only orange from CPL.
|-
|}

==Mobo==

[http://www.intel.com.au/content/www/au/en/products/chipsets/desktop-chipsets.html Intel Chipsets]

{| class="wikitable sortable"
!  Code || Price || Chipset || DP || HDMI || DVI || 5Ghz || BT || USB 3.1 || Type-C || Notes
|-
| AsRock H270M-ITX/ac LGA 1151 Mini ITX Motherboard || $175.00 || H270 || ❌ || ✔️ || ✔️ || ✔️ || ✔️ 4.0 || ❌ || ❌ ||
|-
| [http://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/GA-B250N-Phoenix-WIFI-rev-10#kf Gigabyte GA-B250N-PHOENIX-WIFI Mini ITX Motherboard] ⭐ || $175.00 || B250 || ✔️ || ✔️ || ❌ || ✔️ || ✔️ 4.2 || ✔️ 6×3.1gen2 || ✔️ 1×gen2 || Need to see if HDMI will output DVI... Has M.2gen3 NVMe
|-
| MSI B250I GAMING PRO AC Mini ITX Motherboard || $177.00 || B250 || ❌ || ✔️ || ✔️ || ✔️ || ✔️ 4.2 || ✔️ 6×3.1gen1 || ❌? || Says it has Type-C on the blurb, but not in any of the specs, also talks about 10Gbps speeds implying gen2, once again not on the specs
|-
| Gigabyte GA-H270N-WIFI LGA 1151 Mini ITX Motherboard for Kaby Lake || $195.00 || H270 || ❌ || ✔️ || ✔️ ||  ✔️ || ✔️ 4.2 || ✔️ 6×3.1gen1 || ✔️ 1xgen1 ||
|-
| AsRock Z270M-ITX/ac LGA 1151 Mini ITX Motherboard || $209.00 || Z270 || ❌ || ✔️ || ✔️ || ✔️ || ✔️ 4.0 || ❌ (8×3.0) || ❌ || No USB3.1, old BT kind of pricy...
|-
| Gigabyte GA-Z270N-WIFI LGA 1151 Mini ITX Motherboard for Kaby Lake || $229.00 || Z270 || ❌ || ✔️ || ✔️ || ✔️ || ✔️ 4.2 || ✔️ 6×3.1g1 || ✔️ 1xgen1 ||
|-
| MSI Z270I GAMING PRO CARBON AC LGA 1151 Mini ITX Motherboard || $275.00 || Z270 || ✔️ || ✔️ || ❌ || ✔️ || ✔️ 4.2 || ✔️ 1×gen2A+4×gen1 || ✔️ gen2C ||
|-
| ASUS ROG Strix Z270I Gaming Mini ITX Motherboard || $279.00 || Z270 || ✔️ || ✔️ || ❌ || ✔️ || ✔️ 4.1 || ✔️ only 1 + internal Pannel Connector || ✔️ ||
|}

{| class="wikitable sortable"
!  Code || Price || Notes
|-
| <strike>MSI B150I Gaming Pro AC LGA 1151 Mini ITX Motherboard</strike> || $159.00. Not sure if this supports 7th gen chips...
|-
| <strike>ASUS B150I PRO GAMING/WIFI/AURA LGA 1151 Mini ITX Motherboard</strike> || $179.10
|-
| <strike>AsRock Z170 GAMING-ITX/AC LGA1151 Mini ITX Motherboard</strike> || $179.00 || HDMI+DVI-D.
|-
| <strike>Gigabyte GA-Z170N-WIFI LGA 1151 Mini ITX Motherboard GA-Z170N-WIFI</strike> || $195.00 || USB 3.0, USB Type-C (Not 3.1). Not sure if 7th gen is supported.
|-
| <strike>Asus H170I-PRO LGA1151 MINI-ITX Motherboard</strike> || $195.00 || H170. Has VGA, DVI, DP,& HDMI. WIFI+5Ghz+BT.
|-
|}

==RAM==
* Should this be 2x4GB for dual channel?
{| class="wikitable sortable"
! RAM || Price || Size || Sticks || Notes
|-
| [http://cplonline.com.au/memory/g-skill-8gb-f4-2133c15s-8gnt-ddr4-2133-value-memory.html G.Skill 8GB F4-2133C15S-8GNT DDR4-2133 VALUE Memory] || $79 || 8GB || 1 ||
|-
| [http://cplonline.com.au/memory/corsair-cmk8gx4m1a2400c16r-8gb-ddr4-2400mhzvengeance-lpx-red-heat-spreader-1-20v-xmp-2-0.html Corsair CMK8GX4M1A2400C16R 8GB DDR4 2400MHzVengeance LPX Red Heat spreader 1.20V XMP 2.0] || $89 || 8GB || 1 || Nice Red heat-spreader...
|-
| [http://cplonline.com.au/memory/corsair-8gb-2-x-4gb-cmk8gx4m2a2400c16r-vengeance-lpx-ddr4-2400mhz-red.html Corsair 8GB (2 x 4GB) CMK8GX4M2A2400C16R Vengeance LPX DDR4 2400MHz RED] ⭐ || $99.00 || 8GB || 2 || There's a few different latency perf choices. C13, C14, etc... doubt it would make much of a difference. CPL chages the same but C16R isn't in stock. PCCG charges more.
|-
|}

==SFX PSU==
{| class="wikitable sortable"
! Model || Price || Wattage || Modular || Depth || Note
|-
| Corsair SF450 High Performance SFX Power Supply 80 PLUS Gold CP-9020104-AU || $124.00 || 450W || ✔️ || 100mm || Has a switch on the back...
|-
| Thermaltake Toughpower SFX 450W 80+ || $125.00 || 450W || ✔️ || 100mm || No switch
|-
| Thermaltake Toughpower SFX 600W 80+ Gold Full Modular PS-STP-0600FPCGAU-G || $165.00 || 600W || ✔️ || 100mm || No switch
|-
| Corsair SF600 600W SFX 80 Plus Gold Power Supply ⭐ || $169 || 600W || ✔️ || 100mm || Has a switch on the back...
|-
|}