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* Dualboot Windows/Linux
* Dualboot Windows/Linux


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=mITX, mATX=


Hello, need feedback for your computer. Mainly need you to choose a case.

Mostly picked that parts (haven't brought anything yet), it looks to be about $1200. Although I could skimp a bit if you want to save a couple of hundred. There is quite a bit of mid ground. Processors range from $155 to $335, the price vs the performance is about the same. I could drop the ram down to 4GB at $45. Switch to a crappier SSD (programs would open slower). It would still do what you want, just slower and more annoyingly.

But you had the last computer for like 10 years or so (and it was my old computer from highschool) so I would recommend going for something a bit more future proof (although it's not some ultra highend setup).

* CPU: Intel Core i5-7600 - $299.00
* RAM: Corsair 8GB (2 x 4GB) CMK8GX4M2A2400C16R Vengeance LPX DDR4 2400MHz RED - $99.00
* Mobo: Gigabyte GA-B250N-PHOENIX-WIFI Mini ITX Motherboard - $175.00
* SSD: SAMSUNG 960 EVO 250GB - $185.00
* PSU: Corsair SF600 600W SFX 80 Plus Gold Power Supply - $169
* Cooler: Noctua NH-L9i $54 - Might look at changing this depending on the case.
* Extra Fans: Maybe depends on the case. There like $20
* GPU: None. There not needed for a basic system because the cpus have a basic one on the chip. Mainly needed for the higher end games. They can be brought later around $300-$1000. Might be able to give you an old one when I upgrade.
* Case: $145-$175

I looked at the small NUCs but they didn't seem worth it. They are ones that are like a bigger hockey puck so they don't take up space, but they are not upgradeable and they where costing a bit anyway (probably about $800 for an ok one, although could probably drop a few hundred dollars for a still usable, but slower one). The other issue is they don't support a dedicated graphics card which would mean gaming wouldn't be much on them (Minecraft/Terraria type games would be ok, but any fancy 3d games would be too slow).

Probably the better route is for a smallish computer (mini-itx).

The main advantage to mitx is many of the cases can support a graphics card which could allow Kahlil to play games in the future, but is smaller than a normal desktop setup. I haven't included a graphics for the system currently since it can be brought later ($300-$1000). Might also be able to use an old one of mine if I upgrade at some point.

Having said that, there are also some mitx cases that are much smaller but aren't big enough to fit a graphics card. It would take less space and would also save $165 on a power supply as they come with a basic one. They are a little bit bigger than a NUC, it could probably be stuck behind your monitor. But without the graphics card, gaming becomes limited.

For the ones with space for a graphics card, there is a choice of cases, space-wise and aesthetics. They basically all come in black for the most part.

There are tower cases, box cases, nogpu-cases. There are also some slightly larger tower cases.

The tower cases would be about 2/3 as tall as your current one and half as wide (think VCR). The tower cases can also be put on their side (you could probably put your monitor on top of them). The box ones are like a big shoebox, basically they are a bit wider but shorter than the towers. The larger tower cases would be the width of the box ones with the height of a tower.

* Here's a picture of a tower case for size (this one is the Fractal Design Node 202) - [https://i.redd.it/pynfqrtnc5cy.jpg img]
* Here's a picture of a box case (Cooler Master 110 Elite) - [https://linustechtips.com/main/uploads/monthly_2016_08/P.JPG.818bb5bbc906abc808a8440cfa38b870.JPG img]
* Here's a picture showing the relative sizes for most of the cases - [https://i.imgur.com/6z5U0kW.jpg img]

You can see a list of the cases here, most of the cases on there should be fine. https://www.pccasegear.com/category/25_1119/cases/mini-itx-cases

The following tower cases seem good:
* SilverStone Raven RVZ02 - Has room for a small internal cdrom, but remember you can have an external one that plugs in if you want.
* SilverStone Milo ML08 - This is exactly the same as the RVZ02, just looks different.
* SilverStone ML07 HTPC - Also the same as RVZ02
* Fractal Design Node 202 - Slightly smaller than the silver-stone cases. Wouldn't fit your current HDD, but you don't necessarily need it inside the system. Doesn't have room for a cdrom.

The following box cases are good:
* Cooler Master Elite 110
* Cooler Master Elite 130 - It's longer than the 110 but has more space for larger graphics cards which would give more options, and the 110 has a bit that sticks out the back anyway.
* Fractal Design Core 500 Mini-ITX
* Fractal Design Node 304 - This is an older version of the core 500, but is available in white and maybe you prefer the look.
* SilverStone Sugo Series SG13 - With or without the 'mesh' grid on the front. Also comes in white - https://www.pccasegear.com/products/37277/silverstone-sugo-sg13-sff-chassis-metalized-panel-black-white

Small no-graphics card cases (not much in the way of gaming, save $165 on a power supply):
* In Win Chopin Mini-ITX Chassis with 150W PSU (either in black or aluminium): http://cplonline.com.au/in-win-chopin-mini-itx-silver-chassis-150w-psu.html
* Antec ISK110 VESA Mini-ITX Desktop Black Case: http://cplonline.com.au/computer-cases/antec-isk110-vesa-mini-itx-desktop-case.html

Slightly larger cases:
* Phanteks Enthoo Evolv Mini - White, black (with white bits) or black (red bits).
* Aerocool Dead Silence Cube - Wide range of colors.
* In Win 901 - This is like $100 but looks nice. http://cplonline.com.au/computer-cases/in-win-901-mini-itx-case-901-mini-itx.html
* Bitphenix Prodigy M - https://www.bitfenix.com/global/en/products/chassis/prodigy-m#gallery

=mITX, mATX=


* Could use server mobo/cpu. But then no update for parents.
* Could use server mobo/cpu. But then no update for parents.
* MiniITX only has the one video card slot.
* MiniITX only has the one video card slot.
* [http://cplonline.com.au/motherboard.html?dir=asc&mb_form=607&order=price cplonline MiniITX mobos] - About $159-$210
* [http://cplonline.com.au/motherboard.html?dir=asc&mb_form=607&order=price cplonline MiniITX mobos] - About $159-$210

* $175 case, $170 mobo, $100? PSU, $100 RAM, $100 cooler. $200 M.2 SSD. Something like $900 + CPU

==Final Checks==
* Need a 2.5" Disk? Probably not, just jam the 3.5" into the video card slot.
* Need a fan in the node 202?

==CPU Cooler==
* Cryorig C1
* Cryorig C7 - "The C1 is more slim but you will get more performance out of the C7"
* Noctua NH-C14S
* Noctua NH-L9i - Is much quieter than the C7...
* Noctua NH-L12 - Probably too tall...
* Phanteks PH-TC12LS - Apparently 120mm fan...
* Silverstone AR05
* Shadow Rock LP
* Scythe Big Shuriken 2 - 120mm fan. This is a 58mm cooler, the Node 202 is only listed as 56mm but apparently it can fit?

==Parts==
{| class="wikitable sortable"
! Component || Parts || Price || Note
|-
| Case || Fractal Design Node 202 || $145 || Double check this, the node 202 is kinda big... Coolermaster SG13 is a box.
|-
| SSD || SAMSUNG 960 EVO || $185.00 ||
|-
| RAM || Corsair 8GB (2 x 4GB) CMK8GX4M2A2400C16R Vengeance LPX DDR4 2400MHz RED || $99.00 ||
|-
| Mobo || Gigabyte GA-B250N-PHOENIX-WIFI Mini ITX Motherboard || $175.00 ||
|-
| CPU || Intel Core i5-7600 || $299.00||
|-
| Cooler || Noctua NH-L9i || $54 ||
|-
| PSU || Corsair SF600 600W SFX 80 Plus Gold Power Supply || $169 ||
|-
| Extra Fans || ❔ || ❔ ||
|-
|}


==CPU==
==CPU==
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* 630 graphics get 21.6 fps
* 630 graphics get 21.6 fps
* Server is a i5-4590S (1150 socket...)


{| class="wikitable sortable"
{| class="wikitable sortable"
! Code || ix || model || Socket || Graphics || CPLOnline Price || SC pts || QC pts || MC pts || Cores || Threads || Notes
! Code || ix || model || Socket || Graphics || 💲 || SC pts || QC pts || MC pts || Cores || Threads || 💲SC || 💲QC || 💲MC || Notes
|-
|-
| Pentium G4560 || ? || G4560 || 1151 || Intel® HD Graphics 630 || $73.00 || 103 Pts || 274 Pts || 0281 Pts || 2 || 4 ||
| Intel || Celeron || G3900 || 1151 || HD Graphics 510 || $58.00 || 83.2 Pts || 163 Pts || 0166 Pts || 2 || 2 || 1.43 || 2.81 || 2.86 || Cheapest but not best value for money.
|-
|-
| Intel Core || i3 || 7100 || 1151 || Intel® HD Graphics 630 || $155.00 || 115 Pts || 305 Pts || 0313 Pts || 2 || 4 ||
| Intel || Pentium || G4560 || 1151 || HD Graphics 630 || $73.00 || 103 Pts || 274 Pts || 0281 Pts || 2 || 4 || 1.41 || 3.75 || 3.85 || 💰💩 Best value for money but also kind of crap. Budget choice.
|-
|-
| Intel Core || i5 || 7400 || 1151 || Intel® HD Graphics 630 || $255.00 || 102 Pts || 382 Pts || 0392 Pts || 4 || 4 ||
| <strike>Intel</strike> ❌ || Pentium || G3258 || 1150⚠️ || HD Graphics || $94.00 || 102 Pts || 198 Pts || 0202 Pts || 2 || 2 || 1.09 || 2.11 || 2.15 || ❌ old. More expensive and worse performance than the newer G4560. Silly 2011-3 socket.
|-
|-
| Intel Core || i5 || 7500 || 1151 || Intel® HD Graphics 630 || $269.00 || 111 Pts || 418 Pts || 0430 Pts || 4 || 4 ||
| Intel || Pentium || G4620 || 1151|| HD Graphics 630 || $129.00 || 110 Pts || 295 Pts || 0300 Pts || 2 || 4 || 0.85 || 2.29 || 2.33 || Little under twice price of G4560 for a %33 increase in speed. Probably best to go to the 7100 although that is worse value for money.
|-
|-
| Intel Core || i5 || 7600 || 1151 || Intel® HD Graphics 630 || $299.00 || 121 Pts || 457 Pts || 0467 Pts || 4 || 4 ||
| <strike>Intel Core</strike> ❌ || i7 || 920 || 1366⚠️ || ❌ || $46 || 70.3 Pts || 242 Pts || 346 Pts || 4 || 8 || ❔ || ❔ || ❔ || ❌ ⬅️ Parents setup for comparison.
|-
|-
| Intel Core || i5 || 7600K || 1151 || Intel® HD Graphics 630 || $335.00 || 131 Pts || 499 Pts || 0510 Pts || 4 || 4 || Probably the best value for money... +9% effective speed over the 7600 (+20% with OC).
| Intel Core ⭐ || i3⬅️ || 7100 || 1151 || HD Graphics 630 || $155.00 || 115 Pts || 305 Pts || 0313 Pts || 2 || 4 || 0.74 || 1.97⭐ || 2.02 || 🆗1️⃣💰 This is the best 7th gen value for money. Should be ok for gaming.
|-
|-
| Intel Core || i7 || 7700 || 1151 || Intel® HD Graphics 630 || $422.00 || 121 Pts || 432 Pts || 0648 Pts || 4 || 8 ||
| Intel Core ⭐ || i5⬅️ || 7400 || 1151 || HD Graphics 630 || $255.00 || 102 Pts || 382 Pts || 0392 Pts || 4 || 4 ||0.40 || 1.50 || 1.54 || 🆗2️⃣
|-
|-
| Intel Core || i7 || 7700K || 1151 || Intel® HD Graphics 630 || $473.00 || 139 Pts || 490 Pts || 0743 Pts || 4 || 8 ||
| Intel Core || i5 || 7500 || 1151 || HD Graphics 630 || $269.00 || 111 Pts || 418 Pts || 0430 Pts || 4 || 4 || 0.41 || 1.55 || 1.60 || 🆗2️⃣
|-
|-
| AMD YD1400BBAEBOX || Ryzen 5 || 1400 || AM4 || || $245.00 || 096.2 Pts || 328 Pts || 0535 Pts || 4 || 8 ||
| <strike>Intel Core</strike> ❌ || i5 || [https://ark.intel.com/products/80816/Intel-Core-i5-4590S-Processor-6M-Cache-up-to-3_70-GHz 4590S] || 1150⚠️ || HD Graphics 4600 || $299.00 || 99.9 Pts || 363 Pts || 0374 Pts || 4 || 4 || 0.33 || 1.21 || 1.25 || ❌ ⬅️ My server
|-
|-
| AMD YD1500BBAEBOX || Ryzen 5 || 1500X || AM4 || || $265.00 || 106 Pts || 363 Pts || 0591 Pts || 4 || 8 ||
| Intel Core ⭐ || i5 || 7600 || 1151 || HD Graphics 630 || $299.00 || 121 Pts || 457 Pts || 0467 Pts || 4 || 4 || 0.40 || 1.53 || 1.56 || 🆗2️⃣
|-
|-
| Intel Core || i5 || 7600K || 1151 || HD Graphics 630 || $335.00 || 131 Pts || 499 Pts || 0510 Pts || 4 || 4 || 0.39 || 1.49 || 1.52 || 🆗2️⃣ After this, the $ per perf drops off. +9% effective speed over the 7600 (+20% with OC). Would need to make sure the mobo supports overclocking...1600X
| AMD YD1600BBAEBOX || Ryzen 5 || 1600 || AM4 || || $299.00 || 105 Pts || 381 Pts || 0872 Pts || 6 || 12 ||
|-
|-
| AMD YD160XBBAEBOX || Ryzen 5 || 1600X || AM4 || || $345.00 || 111 Pts || 407 Pts || 0919 Pts || 6 || 12 ||
| Intel Core || i7 || 7700 || 1151 || HD Graphics 630 || $422.00 || 121 Pts || 432 Pts || 0648 Pts || 4 || 8 || 0.29 || 1.02 || 1.54 || ⬇️3️⃣ The value per $ for quad core benchmark drops off here... The MC is about the same.

|-
| Intel Core ⭐ || i7 || 7700K || 1151 || HD Graphics 630 || $473.00 || 139 Pts || 490 Pts || 0743 Pts || 4 || 8 || 0.29 || 1.04 || 1.57 || 3️⃣ No real advantage over over 6700K, but its cheaper so yeh...
|-
| <strike>Intel Core</strike> ❌ || i7 || 6700K || 1151 || HD Graphics 530 || $485.00 || 131 Pts || 456 Pts || 0694 Pts || 4 || 8 || 0.27 || 0.94 || 1.43 || ❌ ⬅️ My desktop
|-
| <strike>Intel Core</strike> ❌ || i7 || [https://ark.intel.com/products/94189/Intel-Core-i7-6800K-Processor-15M-Cache-up-to-3_60-GHz 6800K] || 2011-3⚠️ || ❌ || $595.00 || 112 Pts || 443 Pts || 0884 Pts || 6 || 12 || 0.19 || 0.74 || 1.49 || ❌ The QC vs $ drops a bit more here. There is also no VGA forcing a GPU purchase. And the socket type is silly.
|-
| <strike>Intel Core</strike> ❌ || i7 || 6850K || 2011-3⚠️ || ❌ || $869.00🔥 || 119 Pts || 475 Pts || 0949 Pts || 6 || 12 || 0.14 || 0.55 || 1.09 || ❌ 🔻
|-
| <strike>Intel Core</strike> ❌ || i7 || [https://ark.intel.com/products/94196/Intel-Core-i7-6900K-Processor-20M-Cache-up-to-3_70-GHz 6900K] || 2011-3⚠️ || ❌ || $1,469.00🔥 || 117 Pts || 475 Pts || 1238 Pts || 8 || 16 || 0.08 || 0.32 || 0.84 || ❌ 🔻
|-
| <strike>Intel Core</strike> ❌ || i7 || [https://ark.intel.com/products/94456/Intel-Core-i7-6950X-Processor-Extreme-Edition-25M-Cache-up-to-3_50-GHz 6950X] || 2011-3 || ❌ || $2,335.00🔥 || 117 Pts || 473 Pts || 1,526 Pts || 10 || 20 || 0.05 || 0.20 || 0.65 || ❌ 🔻
|-
| AMD YD1400BBAEBOX || Ryzen 5 || 1400 || AM4 || ❌ || $245.00 || 096.2 Pts || 328 Pts || 0535 Pts || 4 || 8 || 0.39 || 1.34 || 2.18 ||
|-
| AMD YD1500BBAEBOX || Ryzen 5 || 1500X || AM4 || ❌ || $265.00 || 106 Pts || 363 Pts || 0591 Pts || 4 || 8 || 0.40 || 1.37 || 2.23 ||
|-
| AMD YD1600BBAEBOX || Ryzen 5 || 1600 || AM4 || ❌ || $299.00 || 105 Pts || 381 Pts || 0872 Pts || 6 || 12 || 0.35 || 1.27 || 2.92 ||
|-
| AMD YD160XBBAEBOX || Ryzen 5 || 1600X || AM4 || ❌ || $345.00 || 111 Pts || 407 Pts || 0919 Pts || 6 || 12 || 0.32 || 1.18 || 2.66 ||
|-
|-
| AMD YD1700BBAEBOX || Ryzen 7 || 1700 || AM4 || || $433.00 || 103 Pts || 383 Pts || 1137 Pts || 8 || 16 ||
| AMD YD1700BBAEBOX || Ryzen 7 || 1700 || AM4 || ❌ || $433.00 || 103 Pts || 383 Pts || 1137 Pts || 8 || 16 || 0.24 || 0.88 || 2.63 ||
|-
|-
| AMD YD170XBCAEWOF || Ryzen 7 || 1700X || AM4 || || $519.00 || 108 Pts || 405 Pts || 1204 Pts || 8 || 16 ||
| AMD YD170XBCAEWOF || Ryzen 7 || 1700X || AM4 || ❌ || $519.00 || 108 Pts || 405 Pts || 1204 Pts || 8 || 16 || 0.21 || 0.78 || 2.32 ||
|-
|-
| AMD ? || Ryzen 7 || 1800X || AM4 || || N/A || 112 Pts || 420 Pts || 1244 Pts || 8 || 16 ||
| AMD ? || Ryzen 7 || 1800X || AM4 || ❌ || $679 || 112 Pts || 420 Pts || 1244 Pts || 8 || 16 ||
|}
|}


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The 6xxx series more expensive than the 7xxx?
The 6xxx series more expensive than the 7xxx?


==Case==
==mITX Case==
<img src="https://i.imgur.com/6z5U0kW.jpg"/>

* [http://cplonline.com.au/computer-cases.html?case_form_factor=53&limit=60 cplonline mITX cases]
* [http://cplonline.com.au/computer-cases.html?case_form_factor=53&limit=60 cplonline mITX cases]
* [http://cplonline.com.au/computer-cases.html?case_form_factor=52&limit=60 cplonline mATX cases]
* [http://cplonline.com.au/computer-cases.html?case_form_factor=52&limit=60 cplonline mATX cases]
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* [https://www.pccasegear.com/category/25_1119/cases/mini-itx-cases pccasegear mITX cases]
* [https://www.pccasegear.com/category/25_1119/cases/mini-itx-cases pccasegear mITX cases]
* [http://search.pccasegear.com/computer/Micro-Atx pccasegear MicroATX cases]
* [http://search.pccasegear.com/computer/Micro-Atx pccasegear MicroATX cases]

* PSU HDPlex250 '[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UX81ZBJ6B-k allows up to a 970]'

{| class="wikitable sortable"
! Case
! Price
! Size
! GPU
! PSU
! 3.5"
! USB 3.x
! Notes
|-
| Coolermaster Elite 110 Mini ITX || $49.00 || 2 Shoe Boxes || ✔️ (≤210mm), dual slot || ❌ ATX (≤180mm, sticks out the back try at least a 160mm) || ✔️ || ✔️ (3.0) ||
|-
| Cooler Master Elite 130 || $58.00 || Deep? || ✔️ ≤343mm || ❌ ATX || ✔️ || ✔️ (3.0) ||
|-
| Antec ISK110 VESA Mini-ITX Desktop Black Case || $105.00 || Small (VESA Mount) || ❌ || 90W || ❌ || ❌ || Dust trap holes on cover. No 3.5" drive. No USB 3.0. Comes with a small 90W PSU.
|-
| Thermaltake Core V1 mITX || $65 || 2 Shoebox cube || ✔️ full sized dual GPUs || ❌ FULL ATX || ✔️ || Huge 200mm fan
|-
| In Win Chopin Mini-ITX || $115.00 || ❓ || ❓ || 150W inc || ❓ || ❓ || Don't think this has GPU space. PSU not enough for a GPU anyway... Comes in silver.
|-
| In Win 901 Aluminum / Tempered Glass ⭐ || $239.00 || Small Tower || ✔️ (300×120mm dual) || ❌ ATX || ✔️ || ✔️ || 💲💲💲 Expensive, but nice!
|-
| Cooler Master HAF-915R Stacker || $74.00 || Short but deep and wide. 228×248×578mm || ✔️ (dual) || ❌ ATX || ✔️ || ✔️ (3.0) || Dust trap holes on cover. Could be an idea for splitting the server into 2 systems.
|-
| Fractal Design Node 202 ⭐ || $145 || Nice and thin || ✔️ dual slot (≤310×145×47mm) || ❌ SFX PSUs up to 130mm || ❌ || ❓ || pccasegear, not cpl. Seens nice. Optional 450W, but I don't think it comes with the pccasegear one (despite the price).
|-
| Fractal Design NODE 304 || $135.00 || 2xShoeboxs❓ || ✔️ (but use a small 140mm psu) || ❌ (ATX) || ✔️ || ✔️ (3.0) || Lots of HDD's. Was considering it for the server.
|-
| Fractal Design Nano S || $119.00 || Small tower || ✔️ ≤313mm, dual slot || ✔️ (ATX, ≤160mm, shorter recommended || ✔️ || ✔️ || CPL
|-
| Silverstone SG13 || $55 || Cube? || ✔️ (≤266mm) || ❓ || ❌ (ATX) || ❓ || pccasegear
|-
| NZXT Manta Mini ITX || $189 || Small tower ||
|-
| SilverStone Raven RVZ02 || $109 PCG / $199 (with window) || Not too big || ✔️ (≤330mm × ≤121.412) || ❌ (SFX/SFX-L) || ✔️ || ✔️ 3.0 || pccasegear. Milo looks nicer.
|-
| SilverStone Milo ML08 || $109 || Not too big || ✔️ ≤330mm || ❌ (SFX/SFX-L) || ✔️ || ❓ || pccasegear
|-
| Aerocool Dead Silence Cube || $129 || mATX size || ❓ || ❓ || ❓ || ❓ || CPL+pccasegear. Lots of nice colour choices, although only orange from CPL.
|-
|}


==Mobo==
==Mobo==

[http://www.intel.com.au/content/www/au/en/products/chipsets/desktop-chipsets.html Intel Chipsets]


{| class="wikitable sortable"
{| class="wikitable sortable"
! Code || Price || DP || HDMI || VGA || DVI || Notes
! Code || Price || Chipset || DP || HDMI || DVI || 5Ghz || BT || USB 3.1 || Type-C || Notes
|-
|-
| AsRock H270M-ITX/ac LGA 1151 Mini ITX Motherboard || $175.00 || ❌ || ✔️ || ✔️ || No 3.1/type-c. DVI-D/HDMI. WIFI_5G BT4.0.
| AsRock H270M-ITX/ac LGA 1151 Mini ITX Motherboard || $175.00 || H270 || ❌ || ✔️ || ✔️ || ✔️ || ✔️ 4.0 || ❌ || ❌ ||
|-
|-
| Gigabyte GA-B250N-PHOENIX-WIFI Mini ITX Motherboard || $175.00 || ✔️ || ✔️ || ❌ || USB 3.1g2. WIFI_5G, BT4.2.
| [http://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/GA-B250N-Phoenix-WIFI-rev-10#kf Gigabyte GA-B250N-PHOENIX-WIFI Mini ITX Motherboard] ⭐ || $175.00 || B250 || ✔️ || ✔️ || ❌ || ✔️ || ✔️ 4.2 || ✔️ 6×3.1gen2 || ✔️ 1×gen2 || Need to see if HDMI will output DVI... Has M.2gen3 NVMe
|-
|-
| MSI B250I GAMING PRO AC Mini ITX Motherboard || $177.00 || ❌ || ✔️ || ❌ || Has some USB 3.1g1 (no g2/type-c). HDMI+DVI-D.
| MSI B250I GAMING PRO AC Mini ITX Motherboard || $177.00 || B250 || ❌ || ✔️ || ✔️ || ✔️ || ✔️ 4.2 || ✔️ 6×3.1gen1 || ❌? || Says it has Type-C on the blurb, but not in any of the specs, also talks about 10Gbps speeds implying gen2, once again not on the specs
|-
|-
| Gigabyte GA-H270N-WIFI LGA 1151 Mini ITX Motherboard for Kaby Lake || $195.00 || ❌ || ✔️ || ✔️ || DVI-D+HDMI. WIFI_5G+BT. 1xUSB Type-C. 6xUSB 3.1g1.
| Gigabyte GA-H270N-WIFI LGA 1151 Mini ITX Motherboard for Kaby Lake || $195.00 || H270 || ❌ || ✔️ || ✔️ || ✔️ || ✔️ 4.2 || ✔️ 6×3.1gen1 || ✔️ 1xgen1 ||
|-
|-
| AsRock Z270M-ITX/ac LGA 1151 Mini ITX Motherboard || $209.00 || ❌ || ✔️ || ✔️ || Has no USB3.1...
| AsRock Z270M-ITX/ac LGA 1151 Mini ITX Motherboard || $209.00 || Z270 || ❌ || ✔️ || ✔️ || ✔️ || ✔️ 4.0 || ❌ (8×3.0) || ❌ || No USB3.1, old BT kind of pricy...
|-
|-
| Gigabyte GA-Z270N-WIFI LGA 1151 Mini ITX Motherboard for Kaby Lake || $229.00 || ❌ || ✔️ || ✔️ || 6xUSB 3.1g1, USB Type-C.
| Gigabyte GA-Z270N-WIFI LGA 1151 Mini ITX Motherboard for Kaby Lake || $229.00 || Z270 || ❌ || ✔️ || ✔️ || ✔️ || ✔️ 4.2 || ✔️ 6×3.1g1 || ✔️ 1xgen1 ||
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|-
| MSI Z270I GAMING PRO CARBON AC LGA 1151 Mini ITX Motherboard || $275.00 || ✔️ || ✔️ || ❌ || HDMI+DP. Has 1xUSB 3.1g2 Type-C and a bunch more 3.1 TypeA.
| MSI Z270I GAMING PRO CARBON AC LGA 1151 Mini ITX Motherboard || $275.00 || Z270 || ✔️ || ✔️ || ❌ || ✔️ || ✔️ 4.2 || ✔️ 1×gen2A+4×gen1 || ✔️ gen2C ||
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| ASUS ROG Strix Z270I Gaming Mini ITX Motherboard || $279.00 || ✔️ || ✔️ || ❌ || WIFI_5G+BT4.1. Only a single 3.1 connector.
| ASUS ROG Strix Z270I Gaming Mini ITX Motherboard || $279.00 || Z270 || ✔️ || ✔️ || ❌ || ✔️ || ✔️ 4.1 || ✔️ only 1 + internal Pannel Connector || ✔️ ||
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| <strike>Asus H170I-PRO LGA1151 MINI-ITX Motherboard</strike> || $195.00 || H170. Has VGA, DVI, DP,& HDMI. WIFI+5Ghz+BT.
| <strike>Asus H170I-PRO LGA1151 MINI-ITX Motherboard</strike> || $195.00 || H170. Has VGA, DVI, DP,& HDMI. WIFI+5Ghz+BT.
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==RAM==
* Should this be 2x4GB for dual channel?
{| class="wikitable sortable"
! RAM || Price || Size || Sticks || Notes
|-
| [http://cplonline.com.au/memory/g-skill-8gb-f4-2133c15s-8gnt-ddr4-2133-value-memory.html G.Skill 8GB F4-2133C15S-8GNT DDR4-2133 VALUE Memory] || $79 || 8GB || 1 ||
|-
| [http://cplonline.com.au/memory/corsair-cmk8gx4m1a2400c16r-8gb-ddr4-2400mhzvengeance-lpx-red-heat-spreader-1-20v-xmp-2-0.html Corsair CMK8GX4M1A2400C16R 8GB DDR4 2400MHzVengeance LPX Red Heat spreader 1.20V XMP 2.0] || $89 || 8GB || 1 || Nice Red heat-spreader...
|-
| [http://cplonline.com.au/memory/corsair-8gb-2-x-4gb-cmk8gx4m2a2400c16r-vengeance-lpx-ddr4-2400mhz-red.html Corsair 8GB (2 x 4GB) CMK8GX4M2A2400C16R Vengeance LPX DDR4 2400MHz RED] ⭐ || $99.00 || 8GB || 2 || There's a few different latency perf choices. C13, C14, etc... doubt it would make much of a difference. CPL chages the same but C16R isn't in stock. PCCG charges more.
|-
|}

==SFX PSU==
{| class="wikitable sortable"
! Model || Price || Wattage || Modular || Depth || Note
|-
| Corsair SF450 High Performance SFX Power Supply 80 PLUS Gold CP-9020104-AU || $124.00 || 450W || ✔️ || 100mm || Has a switch on the back...
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| Thermaltake Toughpower SFX 450W 80+ || $125.00 || 450W || ✔️ || 100mm || No switch
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| Thermaltake Toughpower SFX 600W 80+ Gold Full Modular PS-STP-0600FPCGAU-G || $165.00 || 600W || ✔️ || 100mm || No switch
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| Corsair SF600 600W SFX 80 Plus Gold Power Supply ⭐ || $169 || 600W || ✔️ || 100mm || Has a switch on the back...
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Latest revision as of 10:26, 2 June 2017

Needs[edit | edit source]

  • USB keyboard?
  • HDMI monitor? I think there a HDMI->DVI Adaptor around? Check boxes down end of the house.
  • Currently around a 100GB of photos, etc...
  • A microphone/headset for Kahlil. Bluetooth would probably be an idea. Leave this seperate for now. Might need blutooth support on mobo but that dongle I ordered for myself should work.
  • Dualboot Windows/Linux

Email[edit | edit source]

Hello, need feedback for your computer. Mainly need you to choose a case.

Mostly picked that parts (haven't brought anything yet), it looks to be about $1200. Although I could skimp a bit if you want to save a couple of hundred. There is quite a bit of mid ground. Processors range from $155 to $335, the price vs the performance is about the same. I could drop the ram down to 4GB at $45. Switch to a crappier SSD (programs would open slower). It would still do what you want, just slower and more annoyingly.

But you had the last computer for like 10 years or so (and it was my old computer from highschool) so I would recommend going for something a bit more future proof (although it's not some ultra highend setup).

  • CPU: Intel Core i5-7600 - $299.00
  • RAM: Corsair 8GB (2 x 4GB) CMK8GX4M2A2400C16R Vengeance LPX DDR4 2400MHz RED - $99.00
  • Mobo: Gigabyte GA-B250N-PHOENIX-WIFI Mini ITX Motherboard - $175.00
  • SSD: SAMSUNG 960 EVO 250GB - $185.00
  • PSU: Corsair SF600 600W SFX 80 Plus Gold Power Supply - $169
  • Cooler: Noctua NH-L9i $54 - Might look at changing this depending on the case.
  • Extra Fans: Maybe depends on the case. There like $20
  • GPU: None. There not needed for a basic system because the cpus have a basic one on the chip. Mainly needed for the higher end games. They can be brought later around $300-$1000. Might be able to give you an old one when I upgrade.
  • Case: $145-$175

I looked at the small NUCs but they didn't seem worth it. They are ones that are like a bigger hockey puck so they don't take up space, but they are not upgradeable and they where costing a bit anyway (probably about $800 for an ok one, although could probably drop a few hundred dollars for a still usable, but slower one). The other issue is they don't support a dedicated graphics card which would mean gaming wouldn't be much on them (Minecraft/Terraria type games would be ok, but any fancy 3d games would be too slow).

Probably the better route is for a smallish computer (mini-itx).

The main advantage to mitx is many of the cases can support a graphics card which could allow Kahlil to play games in the future, but is smaller than a normal desktop setup. I haven't included a graphics for the system currently since it can be brought later ($300-$1000). Might also be able to use an old one of mine if I upgrade at some point.

Having said that, there are also some mitx cases that are much smaller but aren't big enough to fit a graphics card. It would take less space and would also save $165 on a power supply as they come with a basic one. They are a little bit bigger than a NUC, it could probably be stuck behind your monitor. But without the graphics card, gaming becomes limited.

For the ones with space for a graphics card, there is a choice of cases, space-wise and aesthetics. They basically all come in black for the most part.

There are tower cases, box cases, nogpu-cases. There are also some slightly larger tower cases.

The tower cases would be about 2/3 as tall as your current one and half as wide (think VCR). The tower cases can also be put on their side (you could probably put your monitor on top of them). The box ones are like a big shoebox, basically they are a bit wider but shorter than the towers. The larger tower cases would be the width of the box ones with the height of a tower.

  • Here's a picture of a tower case for size (this one is the Fractal Design Node 202) - img
  • Here's a picture of a box case (Cooler Master 110 Elite) - img
  • Here's a picture showing the relative sizes for most of the cases - img

You can see a list of the cases here, most of the cases on there should be fine. https://www.pccasegear.com/category/25_1119/cases/mini-itx-cases

The following tower cases seem good:

  • SilverStone Raven RVZ02 - Has room for a small internal cdrom, but remember you can have an external one that plugs in if you want.
  • SilverStone Milo ML08 - This is exactly the same as the RVZ02, just looks different.
  • SilverStone ML07 HTPC - Also the same as RVZ02
  • Fractal Design Node 202 - Slightly smaller than the silver-stone cases. Wouldn't fit your current HDD, but you don't necessarily need it inside the system. Doesn't have room for a cdrom.

The following box cases are good:

  • Cooler Master Elite 110
  • Cooler Master Elite 130 - It's longer than the 110 but has more space for larger graphics cards which would give more options, and the 110 has a bit that sticks out the back anyway.
  • Fractal Design Core 500 Mini-ITX
  • Fractal Design Node 304 - This is an older version of the core 500, but is available in white and maybe you prefer the look.
  • SilverStone Sugo Series SG13 - With or without the 'mesh' grid on the front. Also comes in white - https://www.pccasegear.com/products/37277/silverstone-sugo-sg13-sff-chassis-metalized-panel-black-white

Small no-graphics card cases (not much in the way of gaming, save $165 on a power supply):

Slightly larger cases:

mITX, mATX[edit | edit source]

  • Could use server mobo/cpu. But then no update for parents.
  • MiniITX only has the one video card slot.
  • cplonline MiniITX mobos - About $159-$210
  • $175 case, $170 mobo, $100? PSU, $100 RAM, $100 cooler. $200 M.2 SSD. Something like $900 + CPU

Final Checks[edit | edit source]

  • Need a 2.5" Disk? Probably not, just jam the 3.5" into the video card slot.
  • Need a fan in the node 202?

CPU Cooler[edit | edit source]

  • Cryorig C1
  • Cryorig C7 - "The C1 is more slim but you will get more performance out of the C7"
  • Noctua NH-C14S
  • Noctua NH-L9i - Is much quieter than the C7...
  • Noctua NH-L12 - Probably too tall...
  • Phanteks PH-TC12LS - Apparently 120mm fan...
  • Silverstone AR05
  • Shadow Rock LP
  • Scythe Big Shuriken 2 - 120mm fan. This is a 58mm cooler, the Node 202 is only listed as 56mm but apparently it can fit?

Parts[edit | edit source]

Component Parts Price Note
Case Fractal Design Node 202 $145 Double check this, the node 202 is kinda big... Coolermaster SG13 is a box.
SSD SAMSUNG 960 EVO $185.00
RAM Corsair 8GB (2 x 4GB) CMK8GX4M2A2400C16R Vengeance LPX DDR4 2400MHz RED $99.00
Mobo Gigabyte GA-B250N-PHOENIX-WIFI Mini ITX Motherboard $175.00
CPU Intel Core i5-7600 $299.00
Cooler Noctua NH-L9i $54
PSU Corsair SF600 600W SFX 80 Plus Gold Power Supply $169
Extra Fans ❔ ❔

CPU[edit | edit source]

  • Skylake/KabyLake intel 6th/7th gen socket is: LGA 1151
  • AMD Ryzen is Socket AM4


  • AMD Ryzen CPUs cost $245, $265, $299, $345, $433, $519 (cplonline)
  • There are no mITX AM4 mobos on cplonline. Most are 1151 with a few other Intel sockets. There are 4 mATX AM4 mobos from $119 -> $145
  • Some of the Ryzen CPU's ship without coolers...
  • 630 graphics get 21.6 fps
  • Server is a i5-4590S (1150 socket...)
Code ix model Socket Graphics 💲 SC pts QC pts MC pts Cores Threads 💲SC 💲QC 💲MC Notes
Intel Celeron G3900 1151 HD Graphics 510 $58.00 83.2 Pts 163 Pts 0166 Pts 2 2 1.43 2.81 2.86 Cheapest but not best value for money.
Intel Pentium G4560 1151 HD Graphics 630 $73.00 103 Pts 274 Pts 0281 Pts 2 4 1.41 3.75 3.85 💰💩 Best value for money but also kind of crap. Budget choice.
Intel ❌ Pentium G3258 1150⚠️ HD Graphics $94.00 102 Pts 198 Pts 0202 Pts 2 2 1.09 2.11 2.15 ❌ old. More expensive and worse performance than the newer G4560. Silly 2011-3 socket.
Intel Pentium G4620 1151 HD Graphics 630 $129.00 110 Pts 295 Pts 0300 Pts 2 4 0.85 2.29 2.33 Little under twice price of G4560 for a %33 increase in speed. Probably best to go to the 7100 although that is worse value for money.
Intel Core ❌ i7 920 1366⚠️ ❌ $46 70.3 Pts 242 Pts 346 Pts 4 8 ❔ ❔ ❔ ❌ ⬅️ Parents setup for comparison.
Intel Core ⭐ i3⬅️ 7100 1151 HD Graphics 630 $155.00 115 Pts 305 Pts 0313 Pts 2 4 0.74 1.97⭐ 2.02 🆗1️⃣💰 This is the best 7th gen value for money. Should be ok for gaming.
Intel Core ⭐ i5⬅️ 7400 1151 HD Graphics 630 $255.00 102 Pts 382 Pts 0392 Pts 4 4 0.40 1.50 1.54 🆗2️⃣
Intel Core i5 7500 1151 HD Graphics 630 $269.00 111 Pts 418 Pts 0430 Pts 4 4 0.41 1.55 1.60 🆗2️⃣
Intel Core ❌ i5 4590S 1150⚠️ HD Graphics 4600 $299.00 99.9 Pts 363 Pts 0374 Pts 4 4 0.33 1.21 1.25 ❌ ⬅️ My server
Intel Core ⭐ i5 7600 1151 HD Graphics 630 $299.00 121 Pts 457 Pts 0467 Pts 4 4 0.40 1.53 1.56 🆗2️⃣
Intel Core i5 7600K 1151 HD Graphics 630 $335.00 131 Pts 499 Pts 0510 Pts 4 4 0.39 1.49 1.52 🆗2️⃣ After this, the $ per perf drops off. +9% effective speed over the 7600 (+20% with OC). Would need to make sure the mobo supports overclocking...1600X
Intel Core i7 7700 1151 HD Graphics 630 $422.00 121 Pts 432 Pts 0648 Pts 4 8 0.29 1.02 1.54 ⬇️3️⃣ The value per $ for quad core benchmark drops off here... The MC is about the same.
Intel Core ⭐ i7 7700K 1151 HD Graphics 630 $473.00 139 Pts 490 Pts 0743 Pts 4 8 0.29 1.04 1.57 3️⃣ No real advantage over over 6700K, but its cheaper so yeh...
Intel Core ❌ i7 6700K 1151 HD Graphics 530 $485.00 131 Pts 456 Pts 0694 Pts 4 8 0.27 0.94 1.43 ❌ ⬅️ My desktop
Intel Core ❌ i7 6800K 2011-3⚠️ ❌ $595.00 112 Pts 443 Pts 0884 Pts 6 12 0.19 0.74 1.49 ❌ The QC vs $ drops a bit more here. There is also no VGA forcing a GPU purchase. And the socket type is silly.
Intel Core ❌ i7 6850K 2011-3⚠️ ❌ $869.00🔥 119 Pts 475 Pts 0949 Pts 6 12 0.14 0.55 1.09 ❌ 🔻
Intel Core ❌ i7 6900K 2011-3⚠️ ❌ $1,469.00🔥 117 Pts 475 Pts 1238 Pts 8 16 0.08 0.32 0.84 ❌ 🔻
Intel Core ❌ i7 6950X 2011-3 ❌ $2,335.00🔥 117 Pts 473 Pts 1,526 Pts 10 20 0.05 0.20 0.65 ❌ 🔻
AMD YD1400BBAEBOX Ryzen 5 1400 AM4 ❌ $245.00 096.2 Pts 328 Pts 0535 Pts 4 8 0.39 1.34 2.18
AMD YD1500BBAEBOX Ryzen 5 1500X AM4 ❌ $265.00 106 Pts 363 Pts 0591 Pts 4 8 0.40 1.37 2.23
AMD YD1600BBAEBOX Ryzen 5 1600 AM4 ❌ $299.00 105 Pts 381 Pts 0872 Pts 6 12 0.35 1.27 2.92
AMD YD160XBBAEBOX Ryzen 5 1600X AM4 ❌ $345.00 111 Pts 407 Pts 0919 Pts 6 12 0.32 1.18 2.66
AMD YD1700BBAEBOX Ryzen 7 1700 AM4 ❌ $433.00 103 Pts 383 Pts 1137 Pts 8 16 0.24 0.88 2.63
AMD YD170XBCAEWOF Ryzen 7 1700X AM4 ❌ $519.00 108 Pts 405 Pts 1204 Pts 8 16 0.21 0.78 2.32
AMD ? Ryzen 7 1800X AM4 ❌ $679 112 Pts 420 Pts 1244 Pts 8 16

|- | Intel Core || i3 || 7100T || 1151 || Intel® HD Graphics 630 || $199.00 || || || 286 Pts || Seems to be a power-saving version?

  • Intel Core i5 6400 - $265
  • Intel Core i5 6500 - $289
  • Intel Core i5 6600K - $345
  • Intel Core i3 7350K - $225
  • Intel Core i5 7600K - $335

The 6xxx series more expensive than the 7xxx?

mITX Case[edit | edit source]

Case Price Size GPU PSU 3.5" USB 3.x Notes
Coolermaster Elite 110 Mini ITX $49.00 2 Shoe Boxes ✔️ (≤210mm), dual slot ❌ ATX (≤180mm, sticks out the back try at least a 160mm) ✔️ ✔️ (3.0)
Cooler Master Elite 130 $58.00 Deep? ✔️ ≤343mm ❌ ATX ✔️ ✔️ (3.0)
Antec ISK110 VESA Mini-ITX Desktop Black Case $105.00 Small (VESA Mount) ❌ 90W ❌ ❌ Dust trap holes on cover. No 3.5" drive. No USB 3.0. Comes with a small 90W PSU.
Thermaltake Core V1 mITX $65 2 Shoebox cube ✔️ full sized dual GPUs ❌ FULL ATX ✔️ Huge 200mm fan
In Win Chopin Mini-ITX $115.00 ❓ ❓ 150W inc ❓ ❓ Don't think this has GPU space. PSU not enough for a GPU anyway... Comes in silver.
In Win 901 Aluminum / Tempered Glass ⭐ $239.00 Small Tower ✔️ (300×120mm dual) ❌ ATX ✔️ ✔️ 💲💲💲 Expensive, but nice!
Cooler Master HAF-915R Stacker $74.00 Short but deep and wide. 228×248×578mm ✔️ (dual) ❌ ATX ✔️ ✔️ (3.0) Dust trap holes on cover. Could be an idea for splitting the server into 2 systems.
Fractal Design Node 202 ⭐ $145 Nice and thin ✔️ dual slot (≤310×145×47mm) ❌ SFX PSUs up to 130mm ❌ ❓ pccasegear, not cpl. Seens nice. Optional 450W, but I don't think it comes with the pccasegear one (despite the price).
Fractal Design NODE 304 $135.00 2xShoeboxs❓ ✔️ (but use a small 140mm psu) ❌ (ATX) ✔️ ✔️ (3.0) Lots of HDD's. Was considering it for the server.
Fractal Design Nano S $119.00 Small tower ✔️ ≤313mm, dual slot ✔️ (ATX, ≤160mm, shorter recommended ✔️ ✔️ CPL
Silverstone SG13 $55 Cube? ✔️ (≤266mm) ❓ ❌ (ATX) ❓ pccasegear
NZXT Manta Mini ITX $189 Small tower
SilverStone Raven RVZ02 $109 PCG / $199 (with window) Not too big ✔️ (≤330mm × ≤121.412) ❌ (SFX/SFX-L) ✔️ ✔️ 3.0 pccasegear. Milo looks nicer.
SilverStone Milo ML08 $109 Not too big ✔️ ≤330mm ❌ (SFX/SFX-L) ✔️ ❓ pccasegear
Aerocool Dead Silence Cube $129 mATX size ❓ ❓ ❓ ❓ CPL+pccasegear. Lots of nice colour choices, although only orange from CPL.

Mobo[edit | edit source]

Intel Chipsets

Code Price Chipset DP HDMI DVI 5Ghz BT USB 3.1 Type-C Notes
AsRock H270M-ITX/ac LGA 1151 Mini ITX Motherboard $175.00 H270 ❌ ✔️ ✔️ ✔️ ✔️ 4.0 ❌ ❌
Gigabyte GA-B250N-PHOENIX-WIFI Mini ITX Motherboard ⭐ $175.00 B250 ✔️ ✔️ ❌ ✔️ ✔️ 4.2 ✔️ 6×3.1gen2 ✔️ 1×gen2 Need to see if HDMI will output DVI... Has M.2gen3 NVMe
MSI B250I GAMING PRO AC Mini ITX Motherboard $177.00 B250 ❌ ✔️ ✔️ ✔️ ✔️ 4.2 ✔️ 6×3.1gen1 ❌? Says it has Type-C on the blurb, but not in any of the specs, also talks about 10Gbps speeds implying gen2, once again not on the specs
Gigabyte GA-H270N-WIFI LGA 1151 Mini ITX Motherboard for Kaby Lake $195.00 H270 ❌ ✔️ ✔️ ✔️ ✔️ 4.2 ✔️ 6×3.1gen1 ✔️ 1xgen1
AsRock Z270M-ITX/ac LGA 1151 Mini ITX Motherboard $209.00 Z270 ❌ ✔️ ✔️ ✔️ ✔️ 4.0 ❌ (8×3.0) ❌ No USB3.1, old BT kind of pricy...
Gigabyte GA-Z270N-WIFI LGA 1151 Mini ITX Motherboard for Kaby Lake $229.00 Z270 ❌ ✔️ ✔️ ✔️ ✔️ 4.2 ✔️ 6×3.1g1 ✔️ 1xgen1
MSI Z270I GAMING PRO CARBON AC LGA 1151 Mini ITX Motherboard $275.00 Z270 ✔️ ✔️ ❌ ✔️ ✔️ 4.2 ✔️ 1×gen2A+4×gen1 ✔️ gen2C
ASUS ROG Strix Z270I Gaming Mini ITX Motherboard $279.00 Z270 ✔️ ✔️ ❌ ✔️ ✔️ 4.1 ✔️ only 1 + internal Pannel Connector ✔️
Code Price Notes
MSI B150I Gaming Pro AC LGA 1151 Mini ITX Motherboard $159.00. Not sure if this supports 7th gen chips...
ASUS B150I PRO GAMING/WIFI/AURA LGA 1151 Mini ITX Motherboard $179.10
AsRock Z170 GAMING-ITX/AC LGA1151 Mini ITX Motherboard $179.00 HDMI+DVI-D.
Gigabyte GA-Z170N-WIFI LGA 1151 Mini ITX Motherboard GA-Z170N-WIFI $195.00 USB 3.0, USB Type-C (Not 3.1). Not sure if 7th gen is supported.
Asus H170I-PRO LGA1151 MINI-ITX Motherboard $195.00 H170. Has VGA, DVI, DP,& HDMI. WIFI+5Ghz+BT.

RAM[edit | edit source]

  • Should this be 2x4GB for dual channel?
RAM Price Size Sticks Notes
G.Skill 8GB F4-2133C15S-8GNT DDR4-2133 VALUE Memory $79 8GB 1
Corsair CMK8GX4M1A2400C16R 8GB DDR4 2400MHzVengeance LPX Red Heat spreader 1.20V XMP 2.0 $89 8GB 1 Nice Red heat-spreader...
Corsair 8GB (2 x 4GB) CMK8GX4M2A2400C16R Vengeance LPX DDR4 2400MHz RED ⭐ $99.00 8GB 2 There's a few different latency perf choices. C13, C14, etc... doubt it would make much of a difference. CPL chages the same but C16R isn't in stock. PCCG charges more.

SFX PSU[edit | edit source]

Model Price Wattage Modular Depth Note
Corsair SF450 High Performance SFX Power Supply 80 PLUS Gold CP-9020104-AU $124.00 450W ✔️ 100mm Has a switch on the back...
Thermaltake Toughpower SFX 450W 80+ $125.00 450W ✔️ 100mm No switch
Thermaltake Toughpower SFX 600W 80+ Gold Full Modular PS-STP-0600FPCGAU-G $165.00 600W ✔️ 100mm No switch
Corsair SF600 600W SFX 80 Plus Gold Power Supply ⭐ $169 600W ✔️ 100mm Has a switch on the back...

NUCs[edit | edit source]

  • Intel NUC Comparison
  • NUCs only have like 32gb of internal storage. Probably not enough for dual booting Windows+Linux.
  • Versions ending in S have RAM+eMMC installed. Version ending in H do not. Or does it stand for HDD supported? Maybe the new ones are different...
  • An i3-6xxx seems to be about %80 of a i5-6xxx
  • There isn't a 6th gen i7 other than the $800 skull one... NUC6I7
  • $864 seems like an ok choice. 6th i5 + 8gb ram + Samsung 960 250GB Evo + 1tb hdd
  • $719 for the i3 with less graphics performance. Could leave the internal hdd.
  • $785 i5, no internal hdd
  • $640 i3, no internal hdd
  • i7 only gets like 30fps in bf4 at 1080p...


Code Gen ix CPLOnline Price Pccasegear Price CPU pts Notes
BOXNUC6CAYH 6th Celeron $219.00 ? Quad-core Intel® Celeron® processor J3455 w/ Intel® HD Graphics 500 168Pts / 5-10fps??? No Ram/eMCC, does this support NVMe? It seems to say it does on the Intel site, but that might not be in NVMe mode...
BOXNUC6i3SYH 6th i3 $370.00 ? 6th Generation Intel® Core™ i3-6100U processor Intel® HD Graphics 520 184 Pts / 18.7 fps
⭐BOXNUC6I5SYH 6th i5 $515.00 ? 6th Generation Intel® Core™ i5-6260U processor with Intel® Iris™ Graphics (540) 219 Pts / 27.7fps NOTE: This H version one doesn't show up on the Intel page?.. Listed as 'coming soon' on intels page but in stock at CPL? +69% fps over i3
BOXNUC7I3BNH 7th i3 $429.00 $439 7th Generation Intel® Core™ i3-7100U with Intel® HD Graphics 620 193 Pts / 19.7 fps Only i3, but newer graphics... Seems to be the only one that pccasegear sells... 🔻 No real advantage over the 6th gen but $100 more... +%6fps over 6th
BOXNUC7I5BNH 7th i5 $585.00 ? 7th Generation Intel® Core™ i5-7260U with Intel® Iris™ Plus Graphics 640 281 Pts / 25.8 fps
BOXNUC7I7BNH 7th i7 $769.00 ? 7th Generation Intel® Core™ i7-7567U with Intel® Iris™ Plus Graphics 650 325 Pts / 35.9 fps
BOXNUC6I7KYK4 6th i7 $825.00 ? 6th Generation Intel® Core™ i7-6770HQ processor with Intel® Iris™ Pro Graphics 580 525 Pts / 38.9 fps Has a 💀 on the box
Code Gen ix CPLOnline Price Pccasegear Price CPU pts Notes
BOXNUC5CPYH 5th Celeron $169.00 ? Dual-core Intel® Celeron® processor N3050 OLD 5th gen. Only 2 cores.
BOXNUC5PPYH 5th Pentium $228.00 ? Quad-core Intel® Pentium® processor N3700 w/ Intel® HD Graphics 108Pts / 5.66 fps OLD 5th gen. Shitty graphics. ❌ Probably NO NVME SUPPROT
BOXNUC6CAYSAJR 6th Celeron $319.00 ? Quad-core Intel® Celeron® processor J3455 168Pts / 5-10fps??? Has 2GB Ram+eMCC, does support 2.5" HDD
BOXNUC5i3RYK 5th i3 $369.00 ? 5th Generation Intel® Core™ i3-5010U processor NO HDD!!!
BOXNUC5i3RYH 5th i3 $375.00 ? 5th Generation Intel® Core™ i3-5010U processor Old 5th gen 2.5" SATA support
BOXNUC6I3SYK 6th i3 $389.00 ? 6th Generation Intel® Core™ i3-6100U processor NO HDD
BOXNUC6I5SYK 6th i5 $525.00 ? 6th Generation Intel® Core™ i5-6260U processor with Intel® Iris™ Graphics (540) NO HDD SUPPORT!
BOXNUC7I5BNK 7th i5 $629.00 ? CPU NO HDD
Code CPLOnline Price Pccasegear Price CPU

M.2 Drives[edit | edit source]

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Drive Size Price Notes
WD WDS120G1G0B Green SATA3 M.2 120GB SSD 120Gb $79.00 SATA 6Gb/s
Kingston 120Gb M.2 SSD SM2280S3G2/120G 120Gb $85.00 SATA
Crucial CT275MX300SSD4 MX300 275GB 275GB $149.00 Avg. Sequential Read Speed 469MB/s
⭐ Corsair 120GB Force MP500 M.2 SSD 120Gb $145.00, $159 (pccasegear) 1,778MB/s/1,030MB/s
Intel SSDPEKKW256G7X1 SSD 600P 256GB PCIe NVMe SSD M.2 form factor 256GB $159.00 708 MB/s
⭐ SAMSUNG 960 EVO 250GB $185.00, $189.00 2,283MBs / 1,224MBs
Corsair 240GB Force MP500 M.2 SSD 240GB $225.00 2,139MB/s / 1,293MB/s
DRIVE SIZE PRICE

2.5" HDDs[edit | edit source]

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Drive Size HDD/SDD Price Notes
Seagate ST500LM030 2.5" 500GB 500GB HDD $57.00
WD WD10JPVX 1TB Blue 2.5 Inch SATA 1TB HDD $79.00
Seagate 2TB ST2000LM015 BarraCuda 2TB HDD $135.00
DRIVE SIZE PRICE

DDR4 SO-DIMM RAM[edit | edit source]

Brand Total Size Price Freq Notes
Team Elite TED44G2133C15-S01 4GB 4GB $45 2133 Single stick
TEAM 8GB (2x4GB) 8GB $79 2400
⭐ Crucial 8GB CT8G4SFD8213 DDR4-2133 8GB $85.00 2133 Single Stick
KINGSTON KVR21S15S8/8 8GB DDR4-2133 8GB $89.00 2133 Single stick
Corsair 8GB (1x8GB) CMSO8GX4M1A2133.... 8GB $95.00 2133 Single Stick

NUC5CPYH Too shithouse[edit | edit source]

  • - $169
  • Says 8gb max ram (what does it come with?, Or is it missing the ram?. 2.5" hdd only.
  • Intel® Celeron® processor N3050 - Only Duel Core

Intel BOXNUC5PPYH NUC Pentium N3700 Barebone[edit | edit source]

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