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! Code || ix || model || Socket || Graphics || 💲 || SC pts || QC pts || MC pts || Cores || Threads || 💲SC || 💲QC || 💲MC || Notes
! Code || ix || model || Socket || Graphics || 💲 || SC pts || QC pts || MC pts || Cores || Threads || 💲SC || 💲QC || 💲MC || Notes
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| Intel || Celeron || G3900 || 1151 || HD Graphics 510 || $58.00 || 83.2 Pts || 163 Pts || 0166 Pts || 2 || 2 || 1.43 || 2.81 || 2.86 ||
| Intel || Celeron || G3900 || 1151 || HD Graphics 510 || $58.00 || 83.2 Pts || 163 Pts || 0166 Pts || 2 || 2 || 1.43 || 2.81 || 2.86 || Cheapest but not best value for money.
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| Intel || Pentium || G4560 || 1151 || HD Graphics 630 || $73.00 || 103 Pts || 274 Pts || 0281 Pts || 2 || 4 || 1.41 || 3.75 || 3.85 ||
| Intel || Pentium || G4560 || 1151 || HD Graphics 630 || $73.00 || 103 Pts || 274 Pts || 0281 Pts || 2 || 4 || 1.41 || 3.75 || 3.85 || Best value for money but also kind of crap. Budget.
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| Intel || Pentium || G3258 || 1150⚠️ || HD Graphics || $94.00 || 102 Pts || 198 Pts || 0202 Pts || 2 || 2 || 1.09 || 2.11 || 2.15 ||
| Intel || Pentium || G3258 || 1150⚠️ || HD Graphics || $94.00 || 102 Pts || 198 Pts || 0202 Pts || 2 || 2 || 1.09 || 2.11 || 2.15 || ❌ old, silly socket
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| Intel || Pentium || G4620 || 1151|| HD Graphics 630 || $129.00 || 110 Pts || 295 Pts || 0300 Pts || 2 || 4 || 0.85 || 2.29 || 2.33 ||
| Intel || Pentium || G4620 || 1151|| HD Graphics 630 || $129.00 || 110 Pts || 295 Pts || 0300 Pts || 2 || 4 || 0.85 || 2.29 || 2.33 || Little under twice price of G4560 for a %33 increase in speed. Probably best to go to the 7100.
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| Intel Core || i3 || 7100 || 1151 || HD Graphics 630 || $155.00 || 115 Pts || 305 Pts || 0313 Pts || 2 || 4 || 0.74 || 1.97⭐ || 2.02 || 🆗1️⃣💰 This is the best 7th gen value for money. Should be ok for gaming.
| Intel Core || i3 || 7100 || 1151 || HD Graphics 630 || $155.00 || 115 Pts || 305 Pts || 0313 Pts || 2 || 4 || 0.74 || 1.97⭐ || 2.02 || 🆗1️⃣💰 This is the best 7th gen value for money. Should be ok for gaming.
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| Intel Core || i5 || 7500 || 1151 || HD Graphics 630 || $269.00 || 111 Pts || 418 Pts || 0430 Pts || 4 || 4 || 0.41 || 1.55 || 1.60 || 🆗2️⃣
| Intel Core || i5 || 7500 || 1151 || HD Graphics 630 || $269.00 || 111 Pts || 418 Pts || 0430 Pts || 4 || 4 || 0.41 || 1.55 || 1.60 || 🆗2️⃣
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| Intel Core || i5 || [https://ark.intel.com/products/80816/Intel-Core-i5-4590S-Processor-6M-Cache-up-to-3_70-GHz 4590S] || 1150⚠️ || HD Graphics 4600 || $299.00 || 99.9 Pts || 363 Pts || 0374 Pts || 4 || 4 || 0.33 || 1.21 || 1.25 || ⬅️ My server
| Intel Core || i5 || [https://ark.intel.com/products/80816/Intel-Core-i5-4590S-Processor-6M-Cache-up-to-3_70-GHz 4590S] || 1150⚠️ || HD Graphics 4600 || $299.00 || 99.9 Pts || 363 Pts || 0374 Pts || 4 || 4 || 0.33 || 1.21 || 1.25 || ❌ ⬅️ My server
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| Intel Core || i5 || 7600 || 1151 || HD Graphics 630 || $299.00 || 121 Pts || 457 Pts || 0467 Pts || 4 || 4 || 0.40 || 1.53 || 1.56 || 🆗2️⃣
| Intel Core || i5 || 7600 || 1151 || HD Graphics 630 || $299.00 || 121 Pts || 457 Pts || 0467 Pts || 4 || 4 || 0.40 || 1.53 || 1.56 || 🆗2️⃣
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| Intel Core || i7 || 7700K || 1151 || HD Graphics 630 || $473.00 || 139 Pts || 490 Pts || 0743 Pts || 4 || 8 || 0.29 || 1.04 || 1.57 || 3️⃣ No real advantage over over 6700K, but its cheaper so yeh...
| Intel Core || i7 || 7700K || 1151 || HD Graphics 630 || $473.00 || 139 Pts || 490 Pts || 0743 Pts || 4 || 8 || 0.29 || 1.04 || 1.57 || 3️⃣ No real advantage over over 6700K, but its cheaper so yeh...
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| Intel Core || i7 || 6700K || 1151 || HD Graphics 530 || $485.00 || 131 Pts || 456 Pts || 0694 Pts || 4 || 8 || 0.27 || 0.94 || 1.43 || ⬅️ My desktop
| Intel Core || i7 || 6700K || 1151 || HD Graphics 530 || $485.00 || 131 Pts || 456 Pts || 0694 Pts || 4 || 8 || 0.27 || 0.94 || 1.43 || ❌ ⬅️ My desktop
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| Intel Core || i7 || [https://ark.intel.com/products/94189/Intel-Core-i7-6800K-Processor-15M-Cache-up-to-3_60-GHz 6800K] || 2011-3 || ❌ || $595.00 || 112 Pts || 443 Pts || 0884 Pts || 6 || 12 || 0.19 || 0.74 || 1.49 || The QC vs $ drops a bit more here.
| Intel Core || i7 || [https://ark.intel.com/products/94189/Intel-Core-i7-6800K-Processor-15M-Cache-up-to-3_60-GHz 6800K] || 2011-3 || ❌ || $595.00 || 112 Pts || 443 Pts || 0884 Pts || 6 || 12 || 0.19 || 0.74 || 1.49 || ❌ The QC vs $ drops a bit more here. There is also no VGA and the socket type is silly.
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| Intel Core || i7 || 6850K || 2011-3 || ❌ || $869.00 || 119 Pts || 475 Pts || 0949 Pts || 6 || 12 || 0.14 || 0.55 || 1.09 ||
| Intel Core || i7 || 6850K || 2011-3 || ❌ || $869.00 || 119 Pts || 475 Pts || 0949 Pts || 6 || 12 || 0.14 || 0.55 || 1.09 || ❌ 🔻
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| Intel Core || i7 || [https://ark.intel.com/products/94196/Intel-Core-i7-6900K-Processor-20M-Cache-up-to-3_70-GHz 6900K] || 2011-3 || ❌ || $1,469.00 || 117 Pts || 475 Pts || 1238 Pts || 8 || 16 || 0.08 || 0.32 || 0.84 ||
| Intel Core || i7 || [https://ark.intel.com/products/94196/Intel-Core-i7-6900K-Processor-20M-Cache-up-to-3_70-GHz 6900K] || 2011-3 || ❌ || $1,469.00 || 117 Pts || 475 Pts || 1238 Pts || 8 || 16 || 0.08 || 0.32 || 0.84 || ❌ 🔻
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| Intel Core || i7 || [https://ark.intel.com/products/94456/Intel-Core-i7-6950X-Processor-Extreme-Edition-25M-Cache-up-to-3_50-GHz 6950X] || 2011-3 || ❌ || $2,335.00 || 117 Pts || 473 Pts || 1,526 Pts || 10 || 20 || 0.05 || 0.20 || 0.65 ||
| Intel Core || i7 || [https://ark.intel.com/products/94456/Intel-Core-i7-6950X-Processor-Extreme-Edition-25M-Cache-up-to-3_50-GHz 6950X] || 2011-3 || ❌ || $2,335.00 || 117 Pts || 473 Pts || 1,526 Pts || 10 || 20 || 0.05 || 0.20 || 0.65 || ❌ 🔻
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| AMD YD1400BBAEBOX || Ryzen 5 || 1400 || AM4 || ❌ || $245.00 || 096.2 Pts || 328 Pts || 0535 Pts || 4 || 8 || 0.39 || 1.34 || 2.18 ||
| AMD YD1400BBAEBOX || Ryzen 5 || 1400 || AM4 || ❌ || $245.00 || 096.2 Pts || 328 Pts || 0535 Pts || 4 || 8 || 0.39 || 1.34 || 2.18 ||

Revision as of 08:35, 15 May 2017

Needs

  • USB keyboard?
  • HDMI monitor? I think there a HDMI->DVI Adaptor around? Check boxes down end of the house.
  • Currently around a 100GB of photos, etc...
  • A microphone/headset for Kahlil. Bluetooth would probably be an idea. Leave this seperate for now. Might need blutooth support on mobo but that dongle I ordered for myself should work.
  • Dualboot Windows/Linux

mITX, mATX

  • Could use server mobo/cpu. But then no update for parents.
  • MiniITX only has the one video card slot.
  • cplonline MiniITX mobos - About $159-$210

CPU

  • Skylake/KabyLake intel 6th/7th gen socket is: LGA 1151
  • AMD Ryzen is Socket AM4


  • AMD Ryzen CPUs cost $245, $265, $299, $345, $433, $519 (cplonline)
  • There are no mITX AM4 mobos on cplonline. Most are 1151 with a few other Intel sockets. There are 4 mATX AM4 mobos from $119 -> $145
  • Some of the Ryzen CPU's ship without coolers...
  • 630 graphics get 21.6 fps
  • Server is a i5-4590S (1150 socket...)
Code ix model Socket Graphics 💲 SC pts QC pts MC pts Cores Threads 💲SC 💲QC 💲MC Notes
Intel Celeron G3900 1151 HD Graphics 510 $58.00 83.2 Pts 163 Pts 0166 Pts 2 2 1.43 2.81 2.86 Cheapest but not best value for money.
Intel Pentium G4560 1151 HD Graphics 630 $73.00 103 Pts 274 Pts 0281 Pts 2 4 1.41 3.75 3.85 Best value for money but also kind of crap. Budget.
Intel Pentium G3258 1150⚠️ HD Graphics $94.00 102 Pts 198 Pts 0202 Pts 2 2 1.09 2.11 2.15 ❌ old, silly socket
Intel Pentium G4620 1151 HD Graphics 630 $129.00 110 Pts 295 Pts 0300 Pts 2 4 0.85 2.29 2.33 Little under twice price of G4560 for a %33 increase in speed. Probably best to go to the 7100.
Intel Core i3 7100 1151 HD Graphics 630 $155.00 115 Pts 305 Pts 0313 Pts 2 4 0.74 1.97⭐ 2.02 🆗1️⃣💰 This is the best 7th gen value for money. Should be ok for gaming.
Intel Core i5 7400 1151 HD Graphics 630 $255.00 102 Pts 382 Pts 0392 Pts 4 4 0.40 1.50 1.54 🆗2️⃣
Intel Core i5 7500 1151 HD Graphics 630 $269.00 111 Pts 418 Pts 0430 Pts 4 4 0.41 1.55 1.60 🆗2️⃣
Intel Core i5 4590S 1150⚠️ HD Graphics 4600 $299.00 99.9 Pts 363 Pts 0374 Pts 4 4 0.33 1.21 1.25 ❌ ⬅️ My server
Intel Core i5 7600 1151 HD Graphics 630 $299.00 121 Pts 457 Pts 0467 Pts 4 4 0.40 1.53 1.56 🆗2️⃣
Intel Core i5 7600K 1151 HD Graphics 630 $335.00 131 Pts 499 Pts 0510 Pts 4 4 0.39 1.49 1.52 🆗2️⃣ After this, the $ per perf drops off. +9% effective speed over the 7600 (+20% with OC). Would need to make sure the mobo supports overclocking...1600X
Intel Core i7 7700 1151 HD Graphics 630 $422.00 121 Pts 432 Pts 0648 Pts 4 8 0.29 1.02 1.54 ⬇️3️⃣ The value per $ for quad core benchmark drops off here... The MC is about the same.
Intel Core i7 7700K 1151 HD Graphics 630 $473.00 139 Pts 490 Pts 0743 Pts 4 8 0.29 1.04 1.57 3️⃣ No real advantage over over 6700K, but its cheaper so yeh...
Intel Core i7 6700K 1151 HD Graphics 530 $485.00 131 Pts 456 Pts 0694 Pts 4 8 0.27 0.94 1.43 ❌ ⬅️ My desktop
Intel Core i7 6800K 2011-3 ❌ $595.00 112 Pts 443 Pts 0884 Pts 6 12 0.19 0.74 1.49 ❌ The QC vs $ drops a bit more here. There is also no VGA and the socket type is silly.
Intel Core i7 6850K 2011-3 ❌ $869.00 119 Pts 475 Pts 0949 Pts 6 12 0.14 0.55 1.09 ❌ 🔻
Intel Core i7 6900K 2011-3 ❌ $1,469.00 117 Pts 475 Pts 1238 Pts 8 16 0.08 0.32 0.84 ❌ 🔻
Intel Core i7 6950X 2011-3 ❌ $2,335.00 117 Pts 473 Pts 1,526 Pts 10 20 0.05 0.20 0.65 ❌ 🔻
AMD YD1400BBAEBOX Ryzen 5 1400 AM4 ❌ $245.00 096.2 Pts 328 Pts 0535 Pts 4 8 0.39 1.34 2.18
AMD YD1500BBAEBOX Ryzen 5 1500X AM4 ❌ $265.00 106 Pts 363 Pts 0591 Pts 4 8 0.40 1.37 2.23
AMD YD1600BBAEBOX Ryzen 5 1600 AM4 ❌ $299.00 105 Pts 381 Pts 0872 Pts 6 12 0.35 1.27 2.92
AMD YD160XBBAEBOX Ryzen 5 1600X AM4 ❌ $345.00 111 Pts 407 Pts 0919 Pts 6 12 0.32 1.18 2.66
AMD YD1700BBAEBOX Ryzen 7 1700 AM4 ❌ $433.00 103 Pts 383 Pts 1137 Pts 8 16 0.24 0.88 2.63
AMD YD170XBCAEWOF Ryzen 7 1700X AM4 ❌ $519.00 108 Pts 405 Pts 1204 Pts 8 16 0.21 0.78 2.32
AMD ? Ryzen 7 1800X AM4 ❌ N/A 112 Pts 420 Pts 1244 Pts 8 16

|- | Intel Core || i3 || 7100T || 1151 || Intel® HD Graphics 630 || $199.00 || || || 286 Pts || Seems to be a power-saving version?

  • Intel Core i5 6400 - $265
  • Intel Core i5 6500 - $289
  • Intel Core i5 6600K - $345
  • Intel Core i3 7350K - $225
  • Intel Core i5 7600K - $335

The 6xxx series more expensive than the 7xxx?

Case

Mobo

Code Price DP HDMI DVI 5Ghz BT Notes
AsRock H270M-ITX/ac LGA 1151 Mini ITX Motherboard $175.00 ❌ ✔️ ✔️ ✔️ 4.0 No 3.1/type-c.
Gigabyte GA-B250N-PHOENIX-WIFI Mini ITX Motherboard $175.00 ✔️ ✔️ ❌ ✔️ 4.2 USB 3.1g2. WIFI_5G, BT4.2.
MSI B250I GAMING PRO AC Mini ITX Motherboard $177.00 ❌ ✔️ ❌ ? ? Has some USB 3.1g1 (no g2/type-c). HDMI+DVI-D.
Gigabyte GA-H270N-WIFI LGA 1151 Mini ITX Motherboard for Kaby Lake $195.00 ❌ ✔️ ✔️ ✔️ ✔️, ver? 1xUSB Type-C. 6xUSB 3.1g1.
AsRock Z270M-ITX/ac LGA 1151 Mini ITX Motherboard $209.00 ❌ ✔️ ✔️ ? ? Has no USB3.1...
Gigabyte GA-Z270N-WIFI LGA 1151 Mini ITX Motherboard for Kaby Lake $229.00 ❌ ✔️ ✔️ ? ? 6xUSB 3.1g1, USB Type-C.
MSI Z270I GAMING PRO CARBON AC LGA 1151 Mini ITX Motherboard $275.00 ✔️ ✔️ ❌ ? ? Has 1xUSB 3.1g2 Type-C and a bunch more 3.1 TypeA.
ASUS ROG Strix Z270I Gaming Mini ITX Motherboard $279.00 ✔️ ✔️ ❌ ✔️ 4.1 Only a single 3.1 connector.
Code Price Notes
MSI B150I Gaming Pro AC LGA 1151 Mini ITX Motherboard $159.00. Not sure if this supports 7th gen chips...
ASUS B150I PRO GAMING/WIFI/AURA LGA 1151 Mini ITX Motherboard $179.10
AsRock Z170 GAMING-ITX/AC LGA1151 Mini ITX Motherboard $179.00 HDMI+DVI-D.
Gigabyte GA-Z170N-WIFI LGA 1151 Mini ITX Motherboard GA-Z170N-WIFI $195.00 USB 3.0, USB Type-C (Not 3.1). Not sure if 7th gen is supported.
Asus H170I-PRO LGA1151 MINI-ITX Motherboard $195.00 H170. Has VGA, DVI, DP,& HDMI. WIFI+5Ghz+BT.

NUCs

  • Intel NUC Comparison
  • NUCs only have like 32gb of internal storage. Probably not enough for dual booting Windows+Linux.
  • Versions ending in S have RAM+eMMC installed. Version ending in H do not. Or does it stand for HDD supported? Maybe the new ones are different...
  • An i3-6xxx seems to be about %80 of a i5-6xxx
  • There isn't a 6th gen i7 other than the $800 skull one... NUC6I7
  • $864 seems like an ok choice. 6th i5 + 8gb ram + Samsung 960 250GB Evo + 1tb hdd
  • $719 for the i3 with less graphics performance. Could leave the internal hdd.
  • $785 i5, no internal hdd
  • $640 i3, no internal hdd
  • i7 only gets like 30fps in bf4 at 1080p...


Code Gen ix CPLOnline Price Pccasegear Price CPU pts Notes
BOXNUC6CAYH 6th Celeron $219.00 ? Quad-core Intel® Celeron® processor J3455 w/ Intel® HD Graphics 500 168Pts / 5-10fps??? No Ram/eMCC, does this support NVMe? It seems to say it does on the Intel site, but that might not be in NVMe mode...
BOXNUC6i3SYH 6th i3 $370.00 ? 6th Generation Intel® Core™ i3-6100U processor Intel® HD Graphics 520 184 Pts / 18.7 fps
⭐BOXNUC6I5SYH 6th i5 $515.00 ? 6th Generation Intel® Core™ i5-6260U processor with Intel® Iris™ Graphics (540) 219 Pts / 27.7fps NOTE: This H version one doesn't show up on the Intel page?.. Listed as 'coming soon' on intels page but in stock at CPL? +69% fps over i3
BOXNUC7I3BNH 7th i3 $429.00 $439 7th Generation Intel® Core™ i3-7100U with Intel® HD Graphics 620 193 Pts / 19.7 fps Only i3, but newer graphics... Seems to be the only one that pccasegear sells... 🔻 No real advantage over the 6th gen but $100 more... +%6fps over 6th
BOXNUC7I5BNH 7th i5 $585.00 ? 7th Generation Intel® Core™ i5-7260U with Intel® Iris™ Plus Graphics 640 281 Pts / 25.8 fps
BOXNUC7I7BNH 7th i7 $769.00 ? 7th Generation Intel® Core™ i7-7567U with Intel® Iris™ Plus Graphics 650 325 Pts / 35.9 fps
BOXNUC6I7KYK4 6th i7 $825.00 ? 6th Generation Intel® Core™ i7-6770HQ processor with Intel® Iris™ Pro Graphics 580 525 Pts / 38.9 fps Has a 💀 on the box
Code Gen ix CPLOnline Price Pccasegear Price CPU pts Notes
BOXNUC5CPYH 5th Celeron $169.00 ? Dual-core Intel® Celeron® processor N3050 OLD 5th gen. Only 2 cores.
BOXNUC5PPYH 5th Pentium $228.00 ? Quad-core Intel® Pentium® processor N3700 w/ Intel® HD Graphics 108Pts / 5.66 fps OLD 5th gen. Shitty graphics. ❌ Probably NO NVME SUPPROT
BOXNUC6CAYSAJR 6th Celeron $319.00 ? Quad-core Intel® Celeron® processor J3455 168Pts / 5-10fps??? Has 2GB Ram+eMCC, does support 2.5" HDD
BOXNUC5i3RYK 5th i3 $369.00 ? 5th Generation Intel® Core™ i3-5010U processor NO HDD!!!
BOXNUC5i3RYH 5th i3 $375.00 ? 5th Generation Intel® Core™ i3-5010U processor Old 5th gen 2.5" SATA support
BOXNUC6I3SYK 6th i3 $389.00 ? 6th Generation Intel® Core™ i3-6100U processor NO HDD
BOXNUC6I5SYK 6th i5 $525.00 ? 6th Generation Intel® Core™ i5-6260U processor with Intel® Iris™ Graphics (540) NO HDD SUPPORT!
BOXNUC7I5BNK 7th i5 $629.00 ? CPU NO HDD
Code CPLOnline Price Pccasegear Price CPU

M.2 Drives

Check which NUC's are nVME compatible...

Drive Size Price Notes
WD WDS120G1G0B Green SATA3 M.2 120GB SSD 120Gb $79.00 SATA 6Gb/s
Kingston 120Gb M.2 SSD SM2280S3G2/120G 120Gb $85.00 SATA
Crucial CT275MX300SSD4 MX300 275GB 275GB $149.00 Avg. Sequential Read Speed 469MB/s
⭐ Corsair 120GB Force MP500 M.2 SSD 120Gb $145.00, $159 (pccasegear) 1,778MB/s/1,030MB/s
Intel SSDPEKKW256G7X1 SSD 600P 256GB PCIe NVMe SSD M.2 form factor 256GB $159.00 708 MB/s
⭐ SAMSUNG 960 EVO 250GB $185.00, $189.00 2,283MBs / 1,224MBs
Corsair 240GB Force MP500 M.2 SSD 240GB $225.00 2,139MB/s / 1,293MB/s
DRIVE SIZE PRICE

2.5" HDDs

Check which NUC's are nVME compatible...

Drive Size HDD/SDD Price Notes
Seagate ST500LM030 2.5" 500GB 500GB HDD $57.00
WD WD10JPVX 1TB Blue 2.5 Inch SATA 1TB HDD $79.00
Seagate 2TB ST2000LM015 BarraCuda 2TB HDD $135.00
DRIVE SIZE PRICE

DDR4 SO-DIMM RAM

Brand Total Size Price Freq Notes
Team Elite TED44G2133C15-S01 4GB 4GB $45 2133 Single stick
TEAM 8GB (2x4GB) 8GB $79 2400
⭐ Crucial 8GB CT8G4SFD8213 DDR4-2133 8GB $85.00 2133 Single Stick
KINGSTON KVR21S15S8/8 8GB DDR4-2133 8GB $89.00 2133 Single stick
Corsair 8GB (1x8GB) CMSO8GX4M1A2133.... 8GB $95.00 2133 Single Stick

NUC5CPYH Too shithouse

  • - $169
  • Says 8gb max ram (what does it come with?, Or is it missing the ram?. 2.5" hdd only.
  • Intel® Celeron® processor N3050 - Only Duel Core

Intel BOXNUC5PPYH NUC Pentium N3700 Barebone

BOXNUC6CAYH

BOXNUC7I3BNH

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