Needs
- USB keyboard?
- HDMI monitor? I think there a HDMI->DVI Adaptor around? Check boxes down end of the house.
- Currently around a 100GB of photos, etc...
- A microphone/headset for Kahlil. Bluetooth would probably be an idea. Leave this seperate for now. Might need blutooth support on mobo but that dongle I ordered for myself should work.
- Dualboot Windows/Linux
mITX, mATX
- Could use server mobo/cpu. But then no update for parents.
- MiniITX only has the one video card slot.
- cplonline MiniITX mobos - About $159-$210
- $175 case, $170 mobo, $100? PSU, $100 RAM, $100 cooler. $200 M.2 SSD. Something like $900 + CPU
Parts
| Component |
Parts |
Price |
Note
|
| Case |
Fractal Design Node 202 |
$145 |
|
| SSD |
SAMSUNG 960 EVO |
$185.00 |
|
| RAM |
Corsair 8GB (2 x 4GB) CMK8GX4M2A2400C16R Vengeance LPX DDR4 2400MHz RED |
$99.00 |
|
| Mobo |
Gigabyte GA-B250N-PHOENIX-WIFI Mini ITX Motherboard |
$175.00 |
|
| Cooler |
❔ |
❔ |
|
| PSU |
❔ |
❔ |
|
CPU
- Skylake/KabyLake intel 6th/7th gen socket is: LGA 1151
- AMD Ryzen is Socket AM4
- AMD Ryzen CPUs cost $245, $265, $299, $345, $433, $519 (cplonline)
- There are no mITX AM4 mobos on cplonline. Most are 1151 with a few other Intel sockets. There are 4 mATX AM4 mobos from $119 -> $145
- Some of the Ryzen CPU's ship without coolers...
- 630 graphics get 21.6 fps
- Server is a i5-4590S (1150 socket...)
| Code |
ix |
model |
Socket |
Graphics |
💲 |
SC pts |
QC pts |
MC pts |
Cores |
Threads |
💲SC |
💲QC |
💲MC |
Notes
|
| Intel |
Celeron |
G3900 |
1151 |
HD Graphics 510 |
$58.00 |
83.2 Pts |
163 Pts |
0166 Pts |
2 |
2 |
1.43 |
2.81 |
2.86 |
Cheapest but not best value for money.
|
| Intel |
Pentium |
G4560 |
1151 |
HD Graphics 630 |
$73.00 |
103 Pts |
274 Pts |
0281 Pts |
2 |
4 |
1.41 |
3.75 |
3.85 |
💰💩 Best value for money but also kind of crap. Budget choice.
|
Intel ❌ |
Pentium |
G3258 |
1150⚠️ |
HD Graphics |
$94.00 |
102 Pts |
198 Pts |
0202 Pts |
2 |
2 |
1.09 |
2.11 |
2.15 |
❌ old. More expensive and worse performance than the newer G4560. Silly 2011-3 socket.
|
| Intel |
Pentium |
G4620 |
1151 |
HD Graphics 630 |
$129.00 |
110 Pts |
295 Pts |
0300 Pts |
2 |
4 |
0.85 |
2.29 |
2.33 |
Little under twice price of G4560 for a %33 increase in speed. Probably best to go to the 7100 although that is worse value for money.
|
Intel Core ❌ |
i7 |
920 |
1366⚠️ |
❌ |
$46 |
70.3 Pts |
242 Pts |
346 Pts |
4 |
8 |
❔ |
❔ |
❔ |
❌ ⬅️ Parents setup for comparison.
|
| Intel Core ⭐ |
i3⬅️ |
7100 |
1151 |
HD Graphics 630 |
$155.00 |
115 Pts |
305 Pts |
0313 Pts |
2 |
4 |
0.74 |
1.97⭐ |
2.02 |
🆗1️⃣💰 This is the best 7th gen value for money. Should be ok for gaming.
|
| Intel Core ⭐ |
i5⬅️ |
7400 |
1151 |
HD Graphics 630 |
$255.00 |
102 Pts |
382 Pts |
0392 Pts |
4 |
4 |
0.40 |
1.50 |
1.54 |
🆗2️⃣
|
| Intel Core |
i5 |
7500 |
1151 |
HD Graphics 630 |
$269.00 |
111 Pts |
418 Pts |
0430 Pts |
4 |
4 |
0.41 |
1.55 |
1.60 |
🆗2️⃣
|
Intel Core ❌ |
i5 |
4590S |
1150⚠️ |
HD Graphics 4600 |
$299.00 |
99.9 Pts |
363 Pts |
0374 Pts |
4 |
4 |
0.33 |
1.21 |
1.25 |
❌ ⬅️ My server
|
| Intel Core ⭐ |
i5 |
7600 |
1151 |
HD Graphics 630 |
$299.00 |
121 Pts |
457 Pts |
0467 Pts |
4 |
4 |
0.40 |
1.53 |
1.56 |
🆗2️⃣
|
| Intel Core |
i5 |
7600K |
1151 |
HD Graphics 630 |
$335.00 |
131 Pts |
499 Pts |
0510 Pts |
4 |
4 |
0.39 |
1.49 |
1.52 |
🆗2️⃣ After this, the $ per perf drops off. +9% effective speed over the 7600 (+20% with OC). Would need to make sure the mobo supports overclocking...1600X
|
| Intel Core |
i7 |
7700 |
1151 |
HD Graphics 630 |
$422.00 |
121 Pts |
432 Pts |
0648 Pts |
4 |
8 |
0.29 |
1.02 |
1.54 |
⬇️3️⃣ The value per $ for quad core benchmark drops off here... The MC is about the same.
|
| Intel Core ⭐ |
i7 |
7700K |
1151 |
HD Graphics 630 |
$473.00 |
139 Pts |
490 Pts |
0743 Pts |
4 |
8 |
0.29 |
1.04 |
1.57 |
3️⃣ No real advantage over over 6700K, but its cheaper so yeh...
|
Intel Core ❌ |
i7 |
6700K |
1151 |
HD Graphics 530 |
$485.00 |
131 Pts |
456 Pts |
0694 Pts |
4 |
8 |
0.27 |
0.94 |
1.43 |
❌ ⬅️ My desktop
|
Intel Core ❌ |
i7 |
6800K |
2011-3⚠️ |
❌ |
$595.00 |
112 Pts |
443 Pts |
0884 Pts |
6 |
12 |
0.19 |
0.74 |
1.49 |
❌ The QC vs $ drops a bit more here. There is also no VGA forcing a GPU purchase. And the socket type is silly.
|
Intel Core ❌ |
i7 |
6850K |
2011-3⚠️ |
❌ |
$869.00🔥 |
119 Pts |
475 Pts |
0949 Pts |
6 |
12 |
0.14 |
0.55 |
1.09 |
❌ 🔻
|
Intel Core ❌ |
i7 |
6900K |
2011-3⚠️ |
❌ |
$1,469.00🔥 |
117 Pts |
475 Pts |
1238 Pts |
8 |
16 |
0.08 |
0.32 |
0.84 |
❌ 🔻
|
Intel Core ❌ |
i7 |
6950X |
2011-3 |
❌ |
$2,335.00🔥 |
117 Pts |
473 Pts |
1,526 Pts |
10 |
20 |
0.05 |
0.20 |
0.65 |
❌ 🔻
|
| AMD YD1400BBAEBOX |
Ryzen 5 |
1400 |
AM4 |
❌ |
$245.00 |
096.2 Pts |
328 Pts |
0535 Pts |
4 |
8 |
0.39 |
1.34 |
2.18 |
|
| AMD YD1500BBAEBOX |
Ryzen 5 |
1500X |
AM4 |
❌ |
$265.00 |
106 Pts |
363 Pts |
0591 Pts |
4 |
8 |
0.40 |
1.37 |
2.23 |
|
| AMD YD1600BBAEBOX |
Ryzen 5 |
1600 |
AM4 |
❌ |
$299.00 |
105 Pts |
381 Pts |
0872 Pts |
6 |
12 |
0.35 |
1.27 |
2.92 |
|
| AMD YD160XBBAEBOX |
Ryzen 5 |
1600X |
AM4 |
❌ |
$345.00 |
111 Pts |
407 Pts |
0919 Pts |
6 |
12 |
0.32 |
1.18 |
2.66 |
|
| AMD YD1700BBAEBOX |
Ryzen 7 |
1700 |
AM4 |
❌ |
$433.00 |
103 Pts |
383 Pts |
1137 Pts |
8 |
16 |
0.24 |
0.88 |
2.63 |
|
| AMD YD170XBCAEWOF |
Ryzen 7 |
1700X |
AM4 |
❌ |
$519.00 |
108 Pts |
405 Pts |
1204 Pts |
8 |
16 |
0.21 |
0.78 |
2.32 |
|
| AMD ? |
Ryzen 7 |
1800X |
AM4 |
❌ |
N/A |
112 Pts |
420 Pts |
1244 Pts |
8 |
16 |
|
|-
| Intel Core || i3 || 7100T || 1151 || Intel® HD Graphics 630 || $199.00 || || || 286 Pts || Seems to be a power-saving version?
Intel Core i5 6400 - $265Intel Core i5 6500 - $289Intel Core i5 6600K - $345Intel Core i3 7350K - $225Intel Core i5 7600K - $335
The 6xxx series more expensive than the 7xxx?
mITX Case
| Case
|
Price
|
Size
|
GPU
|
PSU
|
3.5"
|
USB 3.x
|
Notes
|
| Coolermaster Elite 110 Mini ITX |
$49.00 |
2 Shoe Boxes |
✔️ (≤210mm), dual slot |
❌ ATX (≤180mm, sticks out the back try at least a 160mm) |
✔️ |
✔️ (3.0) |
|
| Cooler Master Elite 130 |
$58.00 |
Deep? |
✔️ ≤343mm |
❌ ATX |
✔️ |
✔️ (3.0) |
|
| Antec ISK110 VESA Mini-ITX Desktop Black Case |
$105.00 |
Small (VESA Mount) |
❌ |
90W |
❌ |
❌ |
Dust trap holes on cover. No 3.5" drive. No USB 3.0. Comes with a small 90W PSU.
|
| Thermaltake Core V1 mITX |
$65 |
2 Shoebox cube |
✔️ full sized dual GPUs |
❌ FULL ATX |
✔️ |
Huge 200mm fan
|
| In Win Chopin Mini-ITX |
$115.00 |
❓ |
❓ |
150W inc |
❓ |
❓ |
Don't think this has GPU space. PSU not enough for a GPU anyway... Comes in silver.
|
| In Win 901 Aluminum / Tempered Glass ⭐ |
$239.00 |
Small Tower |
✔️ (300×120mm dual) |
❌ ATX |
✔️ |
✔️ |
💲💲💲 Expensive, but nice!
|
| Cooler Master HAF-915R Stacker |
$74.00 |
Short but deep and wide. 228×248×578mm |
✔️ (dual) |
❌ ATX |
✔️ |
✔️ (3.0) |
Dust trap holes on cover. Could be an idea for splitting the server into 2 systems.
|
| Fractal Design Node 202 ⭐ |
$145 |
Nice and thin |
✔️ dual slot (≤310×145×47mm) |
❌ SFX PSUs up to 130mm |
❌ |
❓ |
pccasegear, not cpl. Seens nice. Optional 450W, but I don't think it comes with the pccasegear one (despite the price).
|
| Fractal Design NODE 304 |
$135.00 |
2xShoeboxs❓ |
✔️ (but use a small 140mm psu) |
❌ (ATX) |
✔️ |
✔️ (3.0) |
Lots of HDD's. Was considering it for the server.
|
| Fractal Design Nano S |
$119.00 |
Small tower |
✔️ ≤313mm, dual slot |
✔️ (ATX, ≤160mm, shorter recommended |
✔️ |
✔️ |
CPL
|
| Silverstone SG13 |
$55 |
Cube? |
✔️ (≤266mm) |
❓ |
❌ (ATX) |
❓ |
pccasegear
|
| NZXT Manta Mini ITX |
$189 |
Small tower |
|
| SilverStone Raven RVZ02 |
$109 PCG / $199 (with window) |
Not too big |
✔️ (≤330mm × ≤121.412) |
❌ (SFX/SFX-L) |
✔️ |
✔️ 3.0 |
pccasegear. Milo looks nicer.
|
| SilverStone Milo ML08 |
$109 |
Not too big |
✔️ ≤330mm |
❌ (SFX/SFX-L) |
✔️ |
❓ |
pccasegear
|
| Aerocool Dead Silence Cube |
$129 |
mATX size |
❓ |
❓ |
❓ |
❓ |
CPL+pccasegear. Lots of nice colour choices, although only orange from CPL.
|
Mobo
Intel Chipsets
| Code |
Price |
Chipset |
DP |
HDMI |
DVI |
5Ghz |
BT |
USB 3.1 |
Type-C |
Notes
|
| AsRock H270M-ITX/ac LGA 1151 Mini ITX Motherboard |
$175.00 |
H270 |
❌ |
✔️ |
✔️ |
✔️ |
✔️ 4.0 |
❌ |
❌ |
|
| Gigabyte GA-B250N-PHOENIX-WIFI Mini ITX Motherboard ⭐ |
$175.00 |
B250 |
✔️ |
✔️ |
❌ |
✔️ |
✔️ 4.2 |
✔️ 6×3.1gen2 |
✔️ 1×gen2 |
Need to see if HDMI will output DVI... Has M.2gen3 NVMe
|
| MSI B250I GAMING PRO AC Mini ITX Motherboard |
$177.00 |
B250 |
❌ |
✔️ |
✔️ |
✔️ |
✔️ 4.2 |
✔️ 6×3.1gen1 |
❌? |
Says it has Type-C on the blurb, but not in any of the specs, also talks about 10Gbps speeds implying gen2, once again not on the specs
|
| Gigabyte GA-H270N-WIFI LGA 1151 Mini ITX Motherboard for Kaby Lake |
$195.00 |
H270 |
❌ |
✔️ |
✔️ |
✔️ |
✔️ 4.2 |
✔️ 6×3.1gen1 |
✔️ 1xgen1 |
|
| AsRock Z270M-ITX/ac LGA 1151 Mini ITX Motherboard |
$209.00 |
Z270 |
❌ |
✔️ |
✔️ |
✔️ |
✔️ 4.0 |
❌ (8×3.0) |
❌ |
No USB3.1, old BT kind of pricy...
|
| Gigabyte GA-Z270N-WIFI LGA 1151 Mini ITX Motherboard for Kaby Lake |
$229.00 |
Z270 |
❌ |
✔️ |
✔️ |
✔️ |
✔️ 4.2 |
✔️ 6×3.1g1 |
✔️ 1xgen1 |
|
| MSI Z270I GAMING PRO CARBON AC LGA 1151 Mini ITX Motherboard |
$275.00 |
Z270 |
✔️ |
✔️ |
❌ |
✔️ |
✔️ 4.2 |
✔️ 1×gen2A+4×gen1 |
✔️ gen2C |
|
| ASUS ROG Strix Z270I Gaming Mini ITX Motherboard |
$279.00 |
Z270 |
✔️ |
✔️ |
❌ |
✔️ |
✔️ 4.1 |
✔️ only 1 + internal Pannel Connector |
✔️ |
|
| Code |
Price |
Notes
|
MSI B150I Gaming Pro AC LGA 1151 Mini ITX Motherboard |
$159.00. Not sure if this supports 7th gen chips...
|
ASUS B150I PRO GAMING/WIFI/AURA LGA 1151 Mini ITX Motherboard |
$179.10
|
AsRock Z170 GAMING-ITX/AC LGA1151 Mini ITX Motherboard |
$179.00 |
HDMI+DVI-D.
|
Gigabyte GA-Z170N-WIFI LGA 1151 Mini ITX Motherboard GA-Z170N-WIFI |
$195.00 |
USB 3.0, USB Type-C (Not 3.1). Not sure if 7th gen is supported.
|
Asus H170I-PRO LGA1151 MINI-ITX Motherboard |
$195.00 |
H170. Has VGA, DVI, DP,& HDMI. WIFI+5Ghz+BT.
|
RAM
- Should this be 2x4GB for dual channel?
NUCs
- Intel NUC Comparison
- NUCs only have like 32gb of internal storage. Probably not enough for dual booting Windows+Linux.
- Versions ending in S have RAM+eMMC installed. Version ending in H do not. Or does it stand for HDD supported? Maybe the new ones are different...
- An i3-6xxx seems to be about %80 of a i5-6xxx
- There isn't a 6th gen i7 other than the $800 skull one... NUC6I7
- $864 seems like an ok choice. 6th i5 + 8gb ram + Samsung 960 250GB Evo + 1tb hdd
- $719 for the i3 with less graphics performance. Could leave the internal hdd.
- $785 i5, no internal hdd
- $640 i3, no internal hdd
- i7 only gets like 30fps in bf4 at 1080p...
| Code |
Gen |
ix |
CPLOnline Price |
Pccasegear Price |
CPU |
pts |
Notes
|
| BOXNUC6CAYH |
6th |
Celeron |
$219.00 |
? |
Quad-core Intel® Celeron® processor J3455 w/ Intel® HD Graphics 500 |
168Pts / 5-10fps??? |
No Ram/eMCC, does this support NVMe? It seems to say it does on the Intel site, but that might not be in NVMe mode...
|
| BOXNUC6i3SYH |
6th |
i3 |
$370.00 |
? |
6th Generation Intel® Core™ i3-6100U processor Intel® HD Graphics 520 |
184 Pts / 18.7 fps |
|
| ⭐BOXNUC6I5SYH |
6th |
i5 |
$515.00 |
? |
6th Generation Intel® Core™ i5-6260U processor with Intel® Iris™ Graphics (540) |
219 Pts / 27.7fps |
NOTE: This H version one doesn't show up on the Intel page?.. Listed as 'coming soon' on intels page but in stock at CPL? +69% fps over i3
|
BOXNUC7I3BNH |
7th |
i3 |
$429.00 |
$439 |
7th Generation Intel® Core™ i3-7100U with Intel® HD Graphics 620 |
193 Pts / 19.7 fps |
Only i3, but newer graphics... Seems to be the only one that pccasegear sells... 🔻 No real advantage over the 6th gen but $100 more... +%6fps over 6th
|
| BOXNUC7I5BNH |
7th |
i5 |
$585.00 |
? |
7th Generation Intel® Core™ i5-7260U with Intel® Iris™ Plus Graphics 640 |
281 Pts / 25.8 fps |
|
| BOXNUC7I7BNH |
7th |
i7 |
$769.00 |
? |
7th Generation Intel® Core™ i7-7567U with Intel® Iris™ Plus Graphics 650 |
325 Pts / 35.9 fps |
|
| BOXNUC6I7KYK4 |
6th |
i7 |
$825.00 |
? |
6th Generation Intel® Core™ i7-6770HQ processor with Intel® Iris™ Pro Graphics 580 |
525 Pts / 38.9 fps |
Has a 💀 on the box
|
| Code |
Gen |
ix |
CPLOnline Price |
Pccasegear Price |
CPU |
pts |
Notes
|
BOXNUC5CPYH |
5th |
Celeron |
$169.00 |
? |
Dual-core Intel® Celeron® processor N3050 |
|
OLD 5th gen. Only 2 cores.
|
BOXNUC5PPYH |
5th |
Pentium |
$228.00 |
? |
Quad-core Intel® Pentium® processor N3700 w/ Intel® HD Graphics |
108Pts / 5.66 fps |
OLD 5th gen. Shitty graphics. ❌ Probably NO NVME SUPPROT
|
BOXNUC6CAYSAJR |
6th |
Celeron |
$319.00 |
? |
Quad-core Intel® Celeron® processor J3455 |
168Pts / 5-10fps??? |
Has 2GB Ram+eMCC, does support 2.5" HDD
|
BOXNUC5i3RYK |
5th |
i3 |
$369.00 |
? |
5th Generation Intel® Core™ i3-5010U processor |
|
NO HDD!!!
|
BOXNUC5i3RYH |
5th |
i3 |
$375.00 |
? |
5th Generation Intel® Core™ i3-5010U processor |
|
Old 5th gen 2.5" SATA support
|
BOXNUC6I3SYK |
6th |
i3 |
$389.00 |
? |
6th Generation Intel® Core™ i3-6100U processor |
|
NO HDD
|
BOXNUC6I5SYK |
6th |
i5 |
$525.00 |
? |
6th Generation Intel® Core™ i5-6260U processor with Intel® Iris™ Graphics (540) |
|
NO HDD SUPPORT!
|
BOXNUC7I5BNK |
7th |
i5 |
$629.00 |
? |
CPU |
|
NO HDD
|
| Code |
CPLOnline Price |
Pccasegear Price |
CPU
|
M.2 Drives
Check which NUC's are nVME compatible...
| Drive
|
Size
|
Price
|
Notes
|
WD WDS120G1G0B Green SATA3 M.2 120GB SSD |
120Gb |
$79.00 |
SATA 6Gb/s
|
Kingston 120Gb M.2 SSD SM2280S3G2/120G |
120Gb |
$85.00 |
SATA
|
Crucial CT275MX300SSD4 MX300 275GB |
275GB |
$149.00 |
Avg. Sequential Read Speed 469MB/s
|
| ⭐ Corsair 120GB Force MP500 M.2 SSD |
120Gb |
$145.00, $159 (pccasegear) |
1,778MB/s/1,030MB/s
|
| Intel SSDPEKKW256G7X1 SSD 600P 256GB PCIe NVMe SSD M.2 form factor |
256GB |
$159.00 |
708 MB/s
|
| ⭐ SAMSUNG 960 EVO |
250GB |
$185.00, $189.00 |
2,283MBs / 1,224MBs
|
| Corsair 240GB Force MP500 M.2 SSD |
240GB |
$225.00 |
2,139MB/s / 1,293MB/s
|
| DRIVE |
SIZE |
PRICE |
|
2.5" HDDs
Check which NUC's are nVME compatible...
| Drive
|
Size
|
HDD/SDD
|
Price
|
Notes
|
| Seagate ST500LM030 2.5" 500GB |
500GB |
HDD |
$57.00 |
|
| WD WD10JPVX 1TB Blue 2.5 Inch SATA |
1TB |
HDD |
$79.00 |
|
| Seagate 2TB ST2000LM015 BarraCuda |
2TB |
HDD |
$135.00 |
|
| DRIVE |
SIZE |
PRICE |
|
DDR4 SO-DIMM RAM
| Brand
|
Total Size
|
Price
|
Freq
|
Notes
|
| Team Elite TED44G2133C15-S01 4GB |
4GB |
$45 |
2133 |
Single stick
|
| TEAM 8GB (2x4GB) |
8GB |
$79 |
2400 |
|
| ⭐ Crucial 8GB CT8G4SFD8213 DDR4-2133 |
8GB |
$85.00 |
2133 |
Single Stick
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| KINGSTON KVR21S15S8/8 8GB DDR4-2133 |
8GB |
$89.00 |
2133 |
Single stick
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| Corsair 8GB (1x8GB) CMSO8GX4M1A2133.... |
8GB |
$95.00 |
2133 |
Single Stick
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- - $169
- Says 8gb max ram (what does it come with?, Or is it missing the ram?. 2.5" hdd only.
- Intel® Celeron® processor N3050 - Only Duel Core
Intel BOXNUC5PPYH NUC Pentium N3700 Barebone
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